i mentioned it before just thought id ask again in case ya forgot

can you fix the disappearing problem? Sometimes the thrusters disappear visually but reappear when close or something. This also affects your hydro tanks and possibly other blocks too

I have no plans to change to the vanilla Icons- I find them immensly hard to see so I prefer to use the colour icons

@Zardo - Can we get blue vanilla style icons?

Oh thank you for the response, I greatly appreciate it ^.^ I am in no rush at all, I love the models for the engines and I have been using them on a lot of my designs lately so thank you for all the hard work you've put into this mod ^.^

Theres no plans to change the bases or add others of the existing- but I could so some other variants. My pc will be up and running again soon but have a few commisions to catch up on before i can return to these

I love the style of these thrusters but I just have one problem, the large non-cowled versions don't have a solid base and make it hard to seam them into armor for aesthetic purposes, Anyway when your more active you could make a version with the base like the cowled version?

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when can we have small grid dawg ?

Hello, I would like to request permission to make a private tech version of these and upload it as an add on that requires your original mod as a dependency in addition to the tiered tech mod.

I would link back to your original mod and note all credit for the original work if that's ok.

@nosco apologies, new job and new home have kept me busy, it's unknown what's causing the invisible bug. I plan to be active again in the new year and will.look into it again.

For now painting the invisible block will fix it

@kitsu thanks alot :)

@titanius @warlokk SG of these are low priority for me atm but I will see if inspiration strikes in the new year 😃

These look and work great!

Can you fix the blocks disappearing until you get close to them problem? it only seems to affect your blocks

small block ones be good to

Hey I was wondering if it is possible to also get these or something similar for small blocks? or possibly the same size but just able to be attached to small grids

I do not use any modded sounds so that would be an issue on keens end im afraid

something i have noticed using your small eco thrusters (haven't really used others) after a bit of flight, it puts me, visually, in space,and it breaks audio with loud popping. Other's i have played with have this problem. the only temporary fix is restarting the world. First noticed it in a server i was playing on, but now it's everywhere i play.

thanks for the kind words and feedback though! I do listen and appreciate them :)

Simply put- If i made the small thruster too good it would be better to have 9 of them then one of the large, one thruster is much more permanent then 9 and I also dont believe smalls would have the capability to output anywhere near as much thrust- hence why i think they are in a good spot

Hi Zardo! I really like the style of your cowled thrusters in this mod, and your design style in general on all your mods.

I see you've adjusted the boosted thruster fuel consumption and thrust output before. At this point, the large boosted thruster outputs +50% thrust for +100% fuel consumption versus vanilla large H2 thruster. That feels meaningfully different.

You've consistently kept the small boosted thruster at +2-3% thrust increase for +44% fuel use rate. By now I assume it's deliberate design choice. Am I missing a useful reason why to ever use the small boosted thrusters?

(I could see one of 1) proportional +50% thrust +100% fuel use, +33% thrust +67% fuel use, or +25% thrust +50% fuel etc, or 2) disproportionally less efficient +40% thrust +100% fuel use or similar b/c smaller vanilla is less power efficient while denser and more volume efficient.)

Not a criticism, just asking to understand the small boosted thruster's role in your design scheme!

@zardo, i understand. when i do play my harder dnsk awwscrap worlds i dont use tiered tech, so these are always on my must have list

I cannot add compatability im afraid- these are designed to work with vanilla without being over powered- the tiered thrusters would be counter to that.

In addition it would have to be a whole new mod variant of these and id rather keep them to my one mod, sorry

could you add compatibility with the tiered thruster superpack? these look amazing, but lack the power to move massive carriers

Salamander Enjoyer
Paint and repaint them. theyt're still there

Am i the only one having problems with them disappearing when i re-log?

updates?

Any chance of an Industrial Overhaul specific version of this? The thruster fuel consumption for IO thrusters is lower than base game, so it makes the economy thrusters worthless.

So for some reason the mod just doesn't show up on our server. I can't be sure if this is a mod conflict, a bug or a server host issue though. I've uninstalled and reinstalled the mod to no noticeable effect.

I would love to see these with the mexpex thruster framework for some nice fx

That's acceptable.

if I make ions they will be completely different styles these will only ever be hydros

I would love to see these as ion thrusters!

SG versions are coming soon- have a few commision models to complete and a handful of addons to my other mods (antenna and tanks) then its back to this mod

Zardos this has become a must have mod for me. Being able to modify the files has allowed me to make much cooler viable ships by boosting up the thrust and reducing the fuel requirements manually. Now if we just have the small grid versions, my thousands of hours in SE would be complete. :)

@Zardo understood. Thank you. Other than that one issue these thrusters are great!

add small grid NOW

Can't wait for a small grid version, I rarely build large grid anymore.

Its looks like security camera outside.

@zardo what changes did you make to the boosted thrusters? According to in game HUD the thrust power is the same and fuel used is not much less than before.

Previous:
LARGE: 7.80 MN for 6.11 kL/s
8% more thrust for 25% more fuel

SMALL: 1.10 MN for 1610.0 L/s
1.85% more thrust for 100.5% more fuel


Now:
LARGE: 7.80 MN for 5.78 kL/s
8% more thrust for 19.9% more fuel (prolly 20% with rounding)

SMALL: 1.10 MN for 1160.0 L/s
1.85% more thrust for 44.44% more fuel (prolly 45%)

small grid version?

Bug fix update
- collisions fixed on all variants
- Boosted fuel consumption amounts tweaked to hopefully promote more value

these look great. i hope the small grid variants will come soon

I am sure you are already aware, but the thrusters tend to unload their assets when you quit the game. Other than that, this mod is beautiful.

@zardo no worries! Im excited to see what future mods you create :D
And I like the idea of a very fuel hungry thruster for big thrust

its a common issue atm with any mods made recently- no clue whats causing it

UHHH we has a bit of an oopsie... found a bug.

my world is quite modded and when i load back into it - any thrusters i placed are gone. the flame is there, the thrust is there, the actual thruster model is not there. i recolor the thruster and POOF it reappears.

@connakazie thanks for the feedback! I agree with the boosted needing a tweak to their values- I couldnt decide what would be beneficial with those, I do want them to be very fuel hungry either way.
I can look into the economy flame length- My idea was that since they burn less fuel their flame wouldnt be as visible but i can happily tweak it!
And thanks for the kind words! I never thought my mods would get this much visibility it makes my day!

I might be able to get an update out today if i can find time between commisions and the total warhammer update, if not itll be tomorrow :)

Another SMALL thing, for the economy thrusters, could the actual propulsion flame be longer and/or bigger? When using the cowled versions you cannot see the flame from most angles. Other than that this mod is absolutely awesome! I also love your Connector passageway, honestly my favourite mod maker at the moment keep it up <3

PART 1 - Thoughts

Had to split into two comments, apologies for spam :(

Absolutely love the look of these! My only gripe are the Boosted thrusters, I went and calculated the Newtons of force and the fuel consumed for all the thrusters and compared them to the normal, these are my findings, found in PART 2 comment.

LARGE Boosted: Not the worst . . . think the fuel consumtion is a nice number maybe bump to 30% more fuel and give a 40% more thrust, some higher numbers on both ends would make this super nice.

SMALL Boosted: This . . . is . . . bad. It's so bad in fact, it looks like it bugged/glitched from what was intended. Or some weird scaling happened when converting from large to small thruster. This definitely needs a change, it is detrimental to use these.

PART 2 - Stats

NOTE: These are all large grid, SMALL and LARGE are referring to the Small and Large versions of the Hydrogen Thrusters.

LARGE:
Normal: 7.2 MN, 4.82 kL/s
Armoured: 7.2 MN, 4.82 kL/s
Economy: 7.2 MN, 3.21 kL/s
Boosted: 7.8 MN, 6.11 kL/s

Boosted: 0.6 more MN (8%), uses 1.29 more kL/s (25%)
25% more fuel for 8% more thrust

Economy: uses 1.61 less kL/s (33%)
33% less fuel for the same thrust, but costs thruster comps, honestly this is PERFECT.

SMALL:
Normal: 1.08 MN, 803.34 L/s
Armoured: 1.08 MN, 803.34 L/s
Economy: 1.08 MN, 482.01 L/s
Boosted: 1.10 MN, 1610.0 L/s

Boosted: 0.02 MN (1.85%), 806.6 more (100.5%)
100.5% more fuel for 1.85% more thrust

Economy: uses 321.33 less L/s (31%)
Rounding could result in this being 33%, but again, perfect.