Hey, is still mod still up to date enough to do anything? (using this with SFO ofc) but either ive gotten to used to Three kingdoms & Rome 2 again or it doesnt slow down battles at all anymore. Any chance thats because its out of date?

@voiceofreason467

I was having issues with KMM so I uninstalled. I need to reinstall the game (I have the mod folder and can do some editing but will need to get the game back so it can update Workshop.)

So It's almost Feb. now, any chance on an update?

Thanks mate <3 one of my mandatory mods

@bling bling boy

Honestly, wasn't even aware there needed to be updates but I guess that does make sense. I'll make a pass but it won't necessarily be until closer to holidays when I get some more free time. Although it's possible it will be in the next 10 days.

Will this mod get an update for last kiss?

So, does that means that non-SFO units with SFO submods benefit from this mod too?

@nflickner I play with a very short list of submods and this works perfectly. I mea, I could not engine SFO without this mod ! I don't know the mods you mentionned tho.

@romavictor Thanks so much for the info. Also, would you be willing to let me know if this mod works with other mods like OVN or Southern Realms (TEB)? I always like adding other factions, but would want to know if they are included in this rebalancing or not.

@nflickner There is almost none (save the AP damage difference I mention above.) The reason mine exists is because kam was upgrading his computer setup and couldn't update at the time of I think,the Rakarth patch. Now he can, so feel free to sub to his mod, he's the creator, these are his formulas. Given some more time, I will unlist or delete or make some additional changes to make it more original and useful.

Hi, thanks for making this mod. I'm a little confused, though. What is the difference between this mod and Kam's Proper Combat SFO version?

I mean I started three runs since the last SFO patch and I was disgusted by the speed of battles, truely disgusted !

You're the best ! Thx so much !

@=[NK]= Col. Jack O'Neil Updated. @JC_von_Preussen Updated!

Thanks col Jack, I'll update it as soon as I can tomorrow!l. And thank you JC for the kind words!

Sfo will be updated tomorrow, then this will need to be updated

@romavictor No worries dude I love your work. I havent been able to play recently, so... Is it up to date now ? Cheers

@jc_von_preussen sorry I don't recall seeing your comment before from a notification. I think it best to wait until SFO is updated and then update it. It would have worked with whatever units were in the tables but if there were updates to numbers it would be using the old updates tables.

Hey there and thx for the mod ! Does it work with 1.11.0, the most recent update ? Thx in advance

@Lord Chaos

I always felt like (well besides the hellcannon) that artillery was somewhat weak. Remember that if you're using this mod, you're using SFO too and I believe SFO amps up everything. I do agree the developers made it more arcadey which is why PC2 and Brutal Battles (or other overhauls that similarly extend battles) are must-haves. I refuse to play vanilla TW anymore, as even Attila was arcadey before similar modding.

Still lose half hp of my units on singe low tier artillery shot.
Unplayable in my view, but its really the fault of the developers for the crappy campaign/buildings and arcade style battles.

Can you update the longer battle SFO submod? It doesn't seem to work otherwise the battles would last longer than 15 mins. Battles are better, but still too fast for me.

@EnumaEllis

Um, what do you mean, this is an SFO submod? If you mean compatibility with other submods, like additional units or things that alter certain combat related tables, then no (or there will be some conflicts.) I don't actually play SFO really so I can't tell you about other popular submods.

Does this work for SFO submods?

Thanks! :)

Yes mate! Thank you! Been missing this in my campaigns :)

Thank you for doing this :) Hope it will updated in the Future, this is a very nice Mod.

Thanks for doing this romavictor.

@=[NK]= Col. Jack O'Neil

Was extremely tempted to, but in hosting someone else's mod like this I simply applied the formulas and tried not to make custom edits. HOWEVER, I am putting the touches on a combined Brutal Battles and Proper Combat mod (there have to be some choices as one bumps up charge speed and other other reduces it lol) and I will make my own choices for that one, including reducing that absurd speed, increasing the Medusa's ranged attack, making sure homing missiles actually magically home (like Wulfharts) to overcome some of that glitchy non-firing, Frosty's massed bombardment, old school Earthblood and Nehek, etc. I have a version I've used the last two years but it needs updating.

Did you reduce the 90 speed of those damn mole rats to something more comparable to other stuff in the game?!

I think it should work with other mods that add units, since this mod is just changing general tables and not single unit stats. I will test it with some other mods myself, since i play with 100 different ones. :)

I would assume kislev submod adds new lines to tables and is thus additive. But kislev specific stats would be off in comparison and unbalanced.

i wonder how this mod works, like if i use kislev sub mod this mod will work for then too? or the table changes are only for the main factions

Works now, thanks mate!

@ok.
should be fixed now.

Ok I got it. I used the formulas on SFO's tables instead of spending hours finding discrepant entries, but then I didn't name them to give them priority again over SFO's tables. Just ran a successful test!
Let me know of any other feedback.

OK, assumed it would be fine. I changed nothing but the values in the tables from kam's work and the .pack name (but only at the end.) will run a test right now.

Appreciate the work but it's crashing on startup with only this and SFO enabled.