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Not Recommended
0.0 hrs last two weeks / 95.1 hrs on record (6.8 hrs at review time)
Posted: 27 May, 2022 @ 1:38pm
Updated: 30 May, 2022 @ 11:20am

As a player with over 1,700 hours in SE4 and completed SEV2 and SE3, I feel pretty letdown so far. I only play on Authentic. I REALLY want to like this game. But after playing a few more hours, it appears that Rebellion has jumped the shark with this release.

1. There is no wind on the majority of the game I have played, eliminating the challenge of compensating for that. You would have figured they could have at least put in some significant winds when you are on the coastline literally staring at the English Channel. The shooting mechanics have now become unskilled center of crosshair shooting. The wind feels so non-existent from my gameplay that I've been actually questioning if it's a bug. Yes, I get that it was exaggerated in SE4 / SE3 / SEV2, but that made it fun and differentiated the rifles and muzzle velocities, and gave an additional acquired skill factor. You no longer really have to zero a rifle, because it doesn't matter. I don't even look at the wind indicator anymore because it doesn't move 98% of the time. It doesn't feel like a sniping game anymore.
2. The bullet trails coming off enemies bullets look like jumbo jet contrails. I would have thought they could be toned down or removed in Authentic.
3. As others have mentioned, I do not know why they went in the misguided direction of all the non-lethal stuff.
4. I liked the movement of SE4 better. SE5 feels clumsier, almost reminiscent of the clumsiness that SE3 felt like.
5. The coop survival mode camaraderie of reviving people now takes a turn for the worse due to needing medkits to revive your teammates. So all you can do is watch them go down and die if you don't have any to spare. And of course if you use them on a teammate, you no longer have them to heal yourself.
6. In coop survival, ammo at command posts can now be challenging to share. One person can walk up to the command post after a wave has started and basically take it all, leaving no ammo for teammates. That is going to case a lot of tension, and also be a camaraderie breaker.
7. The white outline around your character while your character is in foliage in Authentic is tacky looking and really takes away from the experience of actually feeling like you are hidden in a bush.
8. When you are playing survival, even in Authentic, they put white outlines around the last 5 guys. Seriously, training wheel kid ♥♥♥♥ like that shouldn't be in Authentic.
9. There aren't many snipers in coop survival, and it looks like the positions of them aren't going to vary much. They also seem to be less of a threat than the snipers on SE4.
10. The AI is completely brain-dead. Often, you'll find guys just sitting there inexplicably while a complete gunfight is going on. Their reaction time is slow, and you can just run at them and melee then before they even think about shooting at you.

Hopefully things like these get adjusted in patches, SE5 has been two or three steps back from what they had going in SE4. It's hard to determine if they are trying to only appeal to the casual gamer that just wants to run through the game like it's a movie and dumbed down the skill level to remedial levels for them.

Rebellion dumbed down the difficulty of SE5 bigtime by pretty much removing bullet wind mechanics, and making the AI clueless in comparison to previous SE games. So unless they address major things like that, the game might indeed just be plain boring. It's so far off from being fun in the skill regard that I don't even know if they'll be able to salvage it with patches. Most of the die hard regular SE4 players that I know feel that way. And that comes from someone who has played over 1700 hours of SE4 and REALLY wanted to love SE5.

Seems Rebellion wanted to try to make this either a stealth game or a run and gun game, and lost their roots in the sniping aspect. I think they got lost and overwhelmed themselves with all the weapon customization stuff and actually forgot what makes their games fun for the people who bought it wanting a sniper game.
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14 Comments
XanaX 27 Jun, 2022 @ 11:37pm 
totally agree
ZeGermanTy 4 Jun, 2022 @ 12:01am 
I ended up on a rant... the more I thought about this ridiculous fisher-price-game, the more I came up with.
ZeGermanTy 3 Jun, 2022 @ 11:34pm 
I was hoping that maybe... maybe... you were just being negative. But, it appears you nailed it in this review. The RUINED this game compared to SE4. I'll still play it, and I would still recommend it to someone who has never played SE4... but I'm not happy at all with this game. Everything you mentioned plus the insane amount of bugs/character mishaps, the shooting in general (wind like you said, bullet drop, etc), the insanely dumb AI, the dumbed down version of the game with NO challenge, the unrealistic additions to Authentic which I used to love in SE4, the INSANELY dumb lines from the main character... I mean jesus. I think I'll copy paste this into another review now lol!
vband0 2 Jun, 2022 @ 5:53am 
AI is braindead but it also has aimbot and gets alerted even though they are on the second floor and you killed a guy on the first floor. They shouldn't have ANY way of knowing what happened but they run up to you like flies fly towards shit
WillePlay 30 May, 2022 @ 1:27pm 
Couldn't have put it better myself .Hits the nail on the head.To top it off they also added in the touch of wokeness<<<<<<.Next episode Karl will be tranz. .I have thousands of hours on my other account since V! .Can count now many AI stuck running some where
Sam 29 May, 2022 @ 2:32pm 
Totally agree! If you play long enough in Sniper Elite 4, you feel like you become a real sniper. But, if you play.......... well, you probably wouldn't even want to spend that much time to play Sniper Elite 5, that's how bad Sniper Elite 5 is! I'm starting to wonder if these two games are the same game developer?!
CincyVision 28 May, 2022 @ 9:53pm 
God is the SE5 AI stupid. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3PBpXIp9AU This happens a lot, they are completely clueless.
CincyVision 28 May, 2022 @ 8:29pm 
yeah gjaGamer, it's a total kiddie game now. We've already beat all 3 coop survival maps on Authentic within 3 days of launch, and it's not hard at all. I think we'll be bored with this game in weeks if Rebellion can't up the difficulty or make the ballistics more interesting for the die hard hardcore players. It's a head scratcher how they ended up with this for a Sniper game. We're gonna need A+++ based on the current gameplay.

The AI is completely braindead and needs a complete overhaul too.

I'll probably play it through and do all the achievements, but I don't see how I'm going to play this daily like I did for SE4 for so long. When I get a chance, I'll update this review with even more things. I can easily do 20 listed or so.
gjaGamer1999 28 May, 2022 @ 4:11pm 
Thanks for writing this.

I've held off buying this because the latest Zombie Army game was so awful. It seems Rebellion has forgotten their audience - they want to make games for 8 year olds or something.
Bob 27 May, 2022 @ 5:16pm 
Yeah - they've really dumbed down the shooting mechanics and thus taken away the skill requirement.
The maps also have numerous bugs and I've been lucky (or unlucky, I guess) to find most of them.
Aiming - even for the pistol is off.
The immersive feel that i have in SE4 is gone too - I feel disconnected from the character. The climbing, jumping and Parkour aspects are pretty damn poor.