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"Take your issues up with the authorities"

Another hilarious thing with the TWI's unpaid jannie who got offended by IceBeam questioning the TWI moderation practices is his recommendation to take it up with the authorities, if we don't like that the "double counter" discord bot effectively prevents various KF gamers from getting value out of the KF discord.

It's known that many western services, including discord, are "great firewalled" in China. There are obviously some states in the middle East. And finally Russia and some of her satellites in recent years have seen unprecedented cuts to various services and it's not always that it's Russia cuts them off. As a part of complying with various government sanctions packages many Western IT services do that and some of them seem to have stopped providing their services in Russia on their own, voluntarily.

As an example, Microsoft stopped providing their cloud services to any organizations in Russia. Imagine you are a company in Russia, have not much to do with the war, except that you were unlucky enough to be born there, and, following the advice of IT experts, you moved all your information systems to the Microsoft Azure cloud.

Too bad, the war broke out and now all your information systems turned into vapor. Amazingly, that's not something you would read in any of the IT ♥♥♥♥♥ media, because they are all paid for by these cloud providers. But, case in point, yes, if you forfeit your option of hosting everything yourself, this can be taken from you at any point.

This is something that also have been happening to various US based companies as well. There's a company, Twitter/X competitor, called "Gab".

It's well known that around 2016-2017, per their collusion with the government agencies, Twitter purged a lot of accounts for political activity they didn't like. Unexpected win of Donald Trump in 2016 was attributed to, among other things, to political activism on Web 2.0 platforms, such as, and mainly, Twitter. Most of all Donald Trump's own Twitter account with tens of millions followers, which allowed him to talk directly with his followers, completely bypassing the legacy media. This ended up with all such activist accounts bans, culminating with the acting President's account ban. This all is now known and will be mentioned in the future history books as the "first meme war".

They doubled down on purges during the COVID-19 scamdemic era, ending up banning or shadow banning various prominent scientists, such as Stanford's Jay Bhattacharya, formerly Harvard's Martin Kulldorff, the mRNA technology coinventor Robert Malone.

Gab's only fault was that they famously proclaimed that they will not restrict any rights to freely express themselves for their users, as long as it's legal in the US under US Constitution. Basically, they moderate illegal content, but legal is free to express. That didn't sit well with Microsoft and a couple of other cloud hosting providers and they simply kicked them out.

Basically, all these centralized cloud services, such as Microsoft, but really it's all of them, are a huge scam. They promise to provide their services to everyone. But they don't warn, even in fine print, that actually it's not everyone. If it's someone they and their cronies in the government alphabet agencies don't like they cut them off from their services on a whim.

Discord is no different and is the main reason why it sucks. You can never have any due process there or a chance that your case is heard on reasonable grounds and a judgment is made by an unbiased impartial judge. All it takes is they don't like you. They may not like your politics, which may be something as controversial as admitting MtF ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ into women's sports, including cybersports. Then they cut you off.

So yes, we have this situation where the "Double Counter" bot prevents people all over the world from accessing the KF discord. Guess what this TWI unpaid jannie recommendation is? Take it up with the authorities, i.e. the governments of countries where such people live.

this would not be something the volunteer moderators nor Tripwire would be responsible for. Alt and bot detection on official Discords is hardly unique to the Killing Floor Discord, and if someone takes issue with their country blocking Discord, that is something they should take up with their government.

https://old.reddit.com/r/killingfloor/comments/1jnj40o/now_its_official_twi_can_censor_your_comments_and/mknohw0/

Oh, the irony! LMAO!!!

Well, guess what, this "take it up with the authorities" approach or principle to follow when resolving disputes is something that TWI explicitly DENY themselves. Let me quote from their discord or Steam discussions rules:

https://steamproxy.net/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3469727301

Forum moderators may or may not be Tripwire Interactive staff members, but either way, please respect them, as they are the authority of the forums. Speaking to them with intentional spite will not be tolerated and may result in the loss of your forum privileges.
Any decisions made by any member of staff or moderator are final and not subject to discussion. Doing so may result in a ban from the site.
The owners of Tripwire Interactive Forums reserve the right to remove, edit, move or close any thread for any reason, as well as to remove access to the forums for any individuals with or without warning for breaches of the rules.

https://steamproxy.net/app/232090/discussions/0/368542585860456418/

Basically:

* they can delete any content and ban anyone for anything;
* any moderators decisions are final, regardless of how just they are, all complaints are futile;
* discussing their moderation practices publicly is a ban.

It's not just declarations, they actively follow these rules and ban their customers left and right and been doing it for years.

https://steamproxy.net/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3469830449

https://steamproxy.net/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3469831021

https://steamproxy.net/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3469831534

https://steamproxy.net/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3469832515

https://steamproxy.net/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3469832899

https://steamproxy.net/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3469833176

https://steamproxy.net/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3469833590

https://steamproxy.net/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3469833915

https://steamproxy.net/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3469834055

https://steamproxy.net/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3469834639

https://steamproxy.net/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3469834769

https://steamproxy.net/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3469835195

https://steamproxy.net/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3469835302

https://steamproxy.net/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3469835871

https://steamproxy.net/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3469836807

https://steamproxy.net/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3469839404

https://steamproxy.net/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3469839660

Note the word "authority" in that Molly's warning on discord. Basically, on platforms under TWI's control, they are authority there, or, in other words government. They govern the people and content they create on these platforms. Any decisions they make are final and cannot be appealed. The amount of reversed decisions known to the public is exactly zero. Basically, it's an authoritarian government, a draconian tyranny.

Then, imagine that, a member of this tyranny, a hired goon, an unpaid jannie, decides to argue with the governed people on this tyrannical authority's behalf on how exactly they are governed.

And the goon suggests that the governed should take it up with the authority if they don't like how they are governed. Meanwhile, the authority xe represents here explicitly denies the governmed such rights. Is this smug ♥♥♥♥♥♥ not self aware? Is he just mocking us as powerless serfs? You decide.

While this irony was lost on the goon, it wasn't lost, predictably, on IceBeam. IceBeam brought up his own ban as a case showing the futility of taking it up with the authority. What would be your guess, did this goon even understand why IceBeam brings up his ban?

What are all the ways this unpaid's jannie message can be interpreted? Why would he even suggest to complain to a tyrannical authority, being a part of such an authority ximself?

* Xe lacks any self awareness and xis message is necessarily self contradictory.
* Xe knows perfectly that any appeals are futile, regardless if one complains to TWI mods/community managers or Putin, so xe just mocks us as powerless serfs who are abused and can't do anything about it.
* Combination of both.

I can't think of anything else. What else could have xe meant by this?

So this is another case of bad PR, in a long series, where a representative of TWI authority publicly denigrates their customers for no good reason whatsoever.

This is why you typically don't see Molly or Yoshiro, primary TWI community alienators, ever explaining their actions. This particular goon is just new and haven't learnt the lesson yet that he plays on the side of dimwits, impostors and frauds, so he better not engage in any discusssions, lest their misdeeds are uncovered in the process.

This is why they prohibit even read only access for unverified accounts to their discord, so we can't take screencaps and mock their retardation and inconsistencies in the ways they conduct business and relate to their customers.

Now, let's talk about how this goon ended up being an unpaid jannie in the first place. Who is he? What did he do in KF scene to become one?

He's a literal nobody. Nobody knows him. Zero known cases of him helping anyone in KF community. Zero known contributions to the scene.

Yet, it's someone TWI would promote to become a jannie.

Let's compare with someone whose schedule over the last 6+ years I know intimately well and it's yours truly humble servant Carl himself.

1. You can read my messages on steam and find numerous instances when I was helping TWI's customers with their numerous issues as this game is full of them. That, before I was banned there of course.

2. You can read my messages on reddit and find numerous instances when I was helping TWI's customers with their numerous issues as this game is full of them. That, before I was banned there of course.

3. You can read my messages on TWI official forums and find numerous instances when I was helping TWI's customers with their numerous issues as this game is full of them. That, before I was banned there of course.

There, I had messages to upvotes ratio of 2/1, which I bet is in top 1%, because naturally everybody who I helped with some technical issues was motivated to upvote. Last time I checked that was even higher than that of some of the authorities, who are typically upvoted just because they are authorities.

4. Even outside of the bans, I helped dozens of server hosters with the DDoS defenses, something TWI has been neglecting for years, in DMs and oftentimes in screen sharing technical sessions on Discord.

5. On top of that I host MOTD pictures on my own web server which allows plain HTTP and doesn't attempt to upgrade it to HTTPS automatically, which is required for KF2 game's client to render them, for about of a dozen of other server hosters. TWI could have hosted such a server themselves in order to encourage server hosters to contribute to the scene with their server ops effort, but they aren't even aware that this problem exists.

Unlike some of the elitists I am genuinely compassionate towards noobs and more casual players and even designed a game mode for them with all the mods that I run on HoE+, but with reduced to more casual and chill difficulty.

My DMs are full of various "thank you" notes from various community members who I helped with this or that problem, which is something TWI community managers should have been doing themselves. They don't.

Did TWI ever approach me to make me a jannie? Of course not. It doesn't matter if one is helpful, put a lot of work and contributed a lot to the game's community. What matters is if one calls some slacker who is also an official TWI employee a ♥♥♥ or a ♥♥♥♥♥♥, when they make our lives worse for umpteenth time in a row.

See, in the eyes of these ♥♥♥♥ one derogatory word outweighs a lot of real effort and actions helpful for the community. This is because they aren't capable and don't exert any effort themselves, so they have poor understanding of the value of such efforts.

In the end, slur usage doesn't matter either. A careful reader is well aware that they eventually banned IceBeam as well, who is very polite and very careful with avoiding any offensive words. Why is he not made a moderator?

Tripwire employees who make calls and their bootlickers have no idea how much effort does it take to analyze the game balance. They are oblivious how much effort does it take to produce 20K lines of useful code for the mods. They aren't helpful themselves and their own official forums have even sometimes basic technical questions left behind unanswered for years. So they easily dismiss when others exert such efforts. One "♥♥♥" word outweighs all that, even if it was warranted to use it.

This is also one of the reasons why they so easily kicked out John Gibson, despite him being the most knowledgeable developer who put the most of thought and code into both KF1 and KF2. They aren't capable themselves and aren't in position to even assess the amount of labor did it take to produce all that. They are all mediocrities at best.

Of course, in general, from the business standpoint it's in TWI's best interest to hire the most helpful and capable. But they hire only those, who get along with their authoritarian methods of management, which, I bet, are absolutely the same internally. This inevitably results in poor company performance and ultimately, if unchecked, in bankruptcy.

This is where we've been steadily heading for years.