Hearts of Iron IV

Hearts of Iron IV

Subideology Decisions
80 Comments
Paquito el Renacuajo 2 Jun @ 12:00pm 
Compatibility with rt56?
Señor Planta 1 Jun @ 6:11pm 
Amazing, thx bro
1230james  [author] 27 May @ 10:07pm 
Sorry for the delay; a new decision to adopt Populism as a democracy has been added.
Generic Red Protogen 12 May @ 1:10pm 
somebody make this. but for https://steamproxy.net/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2981091612 i want to commit funny
Señor Planta 25 Mar @ 8:08am 
Thx bro, that would be good
1230james  [author] 23 Mar @ 12:43pm 
Ooo I wasn't aware of that; I'll put it on my to-do list

I'm primarily a Vic3 modder and I'm going through updating all my Vic3 mods atm so this might take a while but I'll be sure to remember to circle back to this
Señor Planta 23 Mar @ 12:39pm 
Don't want to bother, but I will do trying to do so in the best possible way, Paradox added the subideology of Populism for democracy and Brazil begins with it, do you plan to add it? Thx for this mod is awesome.
1230james  [author] 22 Jan @ 5:12am 
Hmm that's bizarre
Not sure if I can do much about it but I'll see if there's anything I can do
Born To Snacc 22 Jan @ 1:33am 
*with and without
Born To Snacc 22 Jan @ 1:33am 
Yeah, I've subbed and resubbed to it a few times over the past few months since I noticed the problem back in last July, hoping it would've been resolved at some point during this time. I've also done a few file verification checks on my end too, both without and without the mod being installed during at least one time apiece.
1230james  [author] 21 Jan @ 10:31pm 
Have you tried unsubbing and resubbing?

That's a really strange thing to happen to a mod that I've not touched in over a year, but it wouldn't be the first time I've had steam workshop fuck something up on an old mod.
Born To Snacc 21 Jan @ 9:00pm 
The launcher is saying that the mod is missing its descriptor file, and I can't add it or activate it on the launcher selector. It's a bummer, I'm not sure why this is happening but it used to be fine before.
1230james  [author] 8 Nov, 2023 @ 5:57am 
Please try the mod and specify what's actually broken (if it is) before asking for an update

This mod is about as simple as it gets and runs on functions that have existed for pretty much the entirety of the game's existence. Just because the launcher says it's "outdated" it doesn't necessarily mean it's broken.
Лучший папочка 8 Nov, 2023 @ 1:37am 
please update
1230james  [author] 22 May, 2023 @ 5:58pm 
This mod is not going to add any ideologies as that is outside the scope of what it was intended to do.

For future readers: please do not ask me to add ideologies. Go find a mod that adds the ideologies you want or make your own.
Hydra 22 May, 2023 @ 5:47pm 
(socialism in the democracy, is just called democratic socialism)
Hydra 22 May, 2023 @ 5:47pm 
for uhh, communism, add a subideology called Socialism (just classical socialism)

Here is a description


Classical Socialism believes in Basic Socialist Principles, which advocate for equality, welfare, free healthcare, free education, and advanced freedoms in the society. Along with rapid social and economic change, resulting in either the abolishment or nullification of capitalism. Being less extreme than things like Marxism, Stalinism and Anarcho-Communism, but more radical than Democratic Socialism
Generic Red Protogen 6 Apr, 2023 @ 8:32am 
SOMEBODY MAKE THIS FOR RED FLOOD
BloodHunter7 13 Mar, 2023 @ 6:56am 
good mod. Finally something different.
vlad 11 Mar, 2023 @ 6:50pm 
uh guys its not showing up in my mods menu, update me on this cuz im confused asf
1230james  [author] 9 Mar, 2023 @ 5:15pm 
That mod adds new ideologies so probably not.

At best it will still work with the vanilla ideologies in that mod if they didn't change any of the internal names for them, but you won't have any decisions that let you switch to the new ideologies that mod adds.
dragonsnot2008 9 Mar, 2023 @ 4:42pm 
is this mod compatible with The Mod; Sub-Ideology Rework BBA Compatible?
U_abz 1 Mar, 2023 @ 6:52pm 
@1230james alright, thanks for the help
1230james  [author] 1 Mar, 2023 @ 6:01pm 
@U_abz If you're using the Ideology Rework mod, Ultranationalism is what IR calls the generic (i.e. non-German) Nazism.

With Subideology Decisions, Ultranationalism should be accessible with the non-German Nazism decision which gets unlocked (or locked) as per the conditions listed in the Detailed Rundown in the mod description.
I_Forgor 1 Mar, 2023 @ 3:31pm 
Ultra-nationalism isn't a sub ideology in the base game
U_abz 1 Mar, 2023 @ 8:31am 
I meant ultra nationalism
U_abz 1 Mar, 2023 @ 8:29am 
Seems like the ultra-militarism option is missing, Could you add it, please?
U_abz 1 Mar, 2023 @ 5:47am 
How do you get Ultra militarism?
Generic Red Protogen 20 Jan, 2023 @ 7:48am 
hope somebody makes this but for red flood
1230james  [author] 28 Dec, 2022 @ 9:28am 
I haven't tried it so I'm not 100% sure, but I would assume yes, it would not be possible.

[Vanilla] subideologies are defined in
(HOI4)/common/ideologies/00_ideologies.txt

If you read this file, you'll see that subideologies are defined within the base ideology groups; e.g. right at the top, democracies have conservatism, liberalism, and socialism defined as "types". Subideologies are not defined independently, they are fundamentally linked to a parent ideology group. The way I see it, the game would just simply not expect someone to be, say, non-aligned, but then have a leader with the liberalism subideology. The liberalism subideology is not related to the non-aligned ideology, so as far as the ideology is concerned, liberalism doesn't exist. How the game actually handles such a scenario would need to be tested, but I wouldn't expect it to go well at all.
Unoriginal Name 28 Dec, 2022 @ 6:57am 
So is it not possible to make it so the base ideology is still in place, and where you can switch to any subideology?
1230james  [author] 28 Dec, 2022 @ 12:24am 
Would be physically possible to write in the script but I don't think that'd be a very smart idea.

Worst case, game shits itself trying to change to a subideology of an ideology group that isn't the current ruling party's.

Best case, game changes the ruling party ideology for you at the same time, but that'd just be plain OP, and thus something I would not allow.
Unoriginal Name 27 Dec, 2022 @ 10:31pm 
Can you make a version that doesn't require any specific base ideologies for these to be chosen?
1230james  [author] 21 Dec, 2022 @ 7:48pm 
Check the next page of the comments; I gave the rundown
Generic Red Protogen 21 Dec, 2022 @ 3:51pm 
also how do i change stuff for this so it works with other mods
Generic Red Protogen 21 Dec, 2022 @ 3:51pm 
can somebody PLEASE make this for The Information Age 2018 - Early Access? I want to do some stupid stuff with the sub-ideologies
Generic Red Protogen 18 Dec, 2022 @ 5:20pm 
somebody make this for TWR or im going to strangle somebody.
1230james  [author] 15 Dec, 2022 @ 4:56am 
@vaskar0505 Can you read? I don't care whether any subideology you want added would be reasonable or not. This mod is STRICTLY for the vanilla subideologies. Go elsewhere if you want them added, because this mod will never be the mod to do it.
Thephillips2020 15 Dec, 2022 @ 1:01am 
Can we have a cheat option to instantly change?
vaskar0505 14 Dec, 2022 @ 5:34pm 
metaxism and maoism are ver valid sub-ideologies for non-aligned and communism respectively.
1230james  [author] 14 Dec, 2022 @ 3:16pm 
what!
bouncer 14 Dec, 2022 @ 3:07pm 
1230james has actively worked with the Rothschild family in the past. be wary of him.
1230james  [author] 13 Dec, 2022 @ 5:21pm 
For the people who are showing up after this mod reached the front page:
This mod is strictly for adding decisions for vanilla subideologies ONLY. This mod does not add subideologies and this mod does not give existing subideologies any new features. This mod will never do either of those - that goes beyond the scope of this mod and any of that crap is unwanted feature creep.

Please do look for other mods on the workshop if you are more interested in literally anything beyond the vanilla subideologies and ways to change between them.

Also, please stop asking me to add subideologies. I will not.
1230james  [author] 13 Dec, 2022 @ 5:20pm 
(1)
> is there anyway to make it compatible [with kaiserreich]?

Please feel free to use this mod as a base to make a variant compatible with Kaiserreich or any other mods of your choosing.

All decisions are defined in:
(mod root)/common/decisions/subidec_decisions.txt
This file is just a list of decisions that check for the current ideology group and the subideology of the leader.

Check the mods you're interested in for their ideology definitions, which should be in:
(mod root)/common/ideologies
Vanilla HOI4 defines them in a file named "00_ideologies.txt"; mods may provide their own to overwrite this file or add new ones.

00_ideologies.txt contains an "ideologies" scope/container, itself containing the ideology groups as direct children (e.g. democratic, communism, fascism, etc.). Within each of these is another scope/container/property called "types", which lists the subideologies.
1230james  [author] 13 Dec, 2022 @ 5:20pm 
(2)
All you need to do in subidec_decisions.txt to create one decision for one subideology is change the values on the other side of the = sign after "has_country_leader_ideology" and "set_country_leader_ideology" to the subideology you want, then change the value after "has_government" to the ideology group the subideology belongs in.

The localization file should also be updated to give the decisions readable text instead of the internal names of your new decisions.

You can check https://hoi4.paradoxwikis.com/Decision_modding for a more general but detailed overview of modding decisions.

In short: yes! You can absolutely make this mod or a version of it compatible with a specific mod out there that adds/changes the ideologies. I will not do it for you (I'll be honest: I cannot be assed to maintain them; I only come here to do quick and dirty mods for some specific thing I need fixed), but you are all encouraged to use this mod as a base to make your own.
vaskar0505 13 Dec, 2022 @ 3:40pm 
Add Metaxism and Maoism
Aldebaran 13 Dec, 2022 @ 2:39pm 
I was going to ask if it was compatible with kaiserreich but then I saw "It should be compatible with literally everything that doesn't change the ideologies."
is there anyway to make it compatible?
BootlegNEGRO 13 Dec, 2022 @ 2:31pm 
thanks for answering my question
Johnson_the_1st 13 Dec, 2022 @ 1:25pm 
I love you
Generic Red Protogen 13 Dec, 2022 @ 9:08am 
i need this but for some mods. like kaiserredux or other mods with sub-ideologies. would be nice