Stormworks: Build and Rescue

Stormworks: Build and Rescue

Dynamic Positioning
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DangerInstructor 2024년 4월 6일 오후 5시 59분 
I'm having trouble with the ship constantly rotating all the time even when the direction should be fine
Hunter Falkner  [작성자] 2024년 4월 4일 오후 1시 09분 
@DerangedCombatant If you're using rudders (and not azipods - as in propellers on robotic pivots) then you should probably avoid using this feature and connect your rudders directly to the pivots. This feature was conceived due to the nature of azipods being able to put out large amounts of thrust in directions which can get the ship capsized.

However if you still want to use this feature there are still two things you can do:
a) make sure the directional velocity sensor is set to "directional" and pointing to the side as other settings might cause severe limiting
b) disconnect the directional velocity sensor if that proves unsatisfactory
c) have some kind of microcontroller which will divide throttle input by a factor of 2 or 3 and input that into the DP

If none of the above solutions help then you probably not have enough turning force on the rudders to need to limit the deflection. I hope this helps!
Nashy 2024년 3월 29일 오후 10시 34분 
Is there a way to turn down the Azipod authority limiter without un-scrambling your logic, im using rudders controlled via pivots but its no letting them turn anywhere near enough at any speed other than a crawl
Hunter Falkner  [작성자] 2023년 8월 31일 오전 11시 18분 
@KeroseneViking Hello and excuse my late response - I am very glad you're enjoying my work, seeing people like my stuff makes all the difference in drive to do these things. Answering your question - it would be possible to do all these things, however I would need to sit down to it and actually do it. I have not had much time to play stormworks and as far as I remember I would need to sit down to it and redesign a whole lot of the controller to actually make it possible before I add any features due to the thing being horribly made and completely not modular. However if I get the time I will take these into consideration and attempt to redesign and improve the chip. I promise not to leave this as is and actually come back to it because it's one of few projects I did that I fully intend on supporting and I will not abandon it any time soon. Cheers :)
KeroseneViking 2023년 8월 3일 오후 4시 52분 
Hey Hunter! Do you think it would be possible to add the ability to adjust sensitivity variables on screen? If not then maybe add a composite input node to do so? Again if not, could I get a way to adjust the heading hold on screen? All in all, I absolutely love your work here; I've put it on every ship I have made. These are just requests that I have had from literal years of using it! :)
Hunter Falkner  [작성자] 2023년 6월 12일 오전 8시 19분 
@RayCubed I'm glad you're enjoying it, if you're unsure of anything you can feel free to post here or hit me up directly!
RayCubed 2023년 6월 11일 오후 5시 15분 
Fantastic work.

Thank you for including builds that also used your controller, makes a world of difference for troubleshooting my own implementation.
Hunter Falkner  [작성자] 2023년 2월 22일 오전 10시 27분 
@kclarke13 the only way for now would be having an azipod turn 90 degrees to left or right and act as a tunnel thruster, this controller is not designed to work with bow azipods per se, sorry :(
kclarke13 2023년 2월 22일 오전 5시 26분 
Is there a way to use this with bow azipods instead of tunnel thrusters?
Hunter Falkner  [작성자] 2022년 10월 16일 오전 3시 50분 
@space_pirate I'm glad you're enjoying it :) I'll look at the issue of not being able to adjust the ships' position with arrows and maybe do some improvements to the system, which are long overdue.
space_pirate 2022년 10월 16일 오전 2시 07분 
@Hunter Falkner
Yes it's crazy that it actually still works or we'll almost the only thing that have seemed to stop working is moving the ship in full do with the arrows but the dp mode still works like a charm wich is truly amazing 🥰
Hunter Falkner  [작성자] 2022년 9월 12일 오후 5시 21분 
@kclarke13 I definitely recommend trying the calibrating mode when you run into issues, it helps to rule out several causes of problems - thrusters not armed included :)

Now come to think of it I could definitely add a message that pops up in the middle of the display whenever thrusters are not armed while attempting to operate the system.
kclarke13 2022년 9월 12일 오후 3시 18분 
disregard... arming thrusters is a nice thing
kclarke13 2022년 9월 12일 오후 3시 04분 
i'm not getting any power at my thrusters. i've tried them manually and they work. any quick ideas or do you recommend the calibration procedure?
Hunter Falkner  [작성자] 2022년 9월 10일 오전 9시 48분 
@kclarke13 go right ahead buddy, that's what it's for :)
kclarke13 2022년 9월 9일 오후 3시 31분 
thank you so much, this looks awesome. mind if i use it on a project?
Hunter Falkner  [작성자] 2022년 6월 20일 오전 6시 56분 
@space_pirate thank you so much for the kind words <3. It's one of the microcontrollers that stood the test of time and didn't let the devs break anything in it. I'm actually impressed it still works well after all this time.
space_pirate 2022년 6월 16일 오후 1시 51분 
16-06-2020 still works like a charm one of the best things i have ever put in my ship <3 if it dosent work for you well then you have made something wrong. i have it installed in 4 different ships small and big and it works in ALL of them.
Hunter Falkner  [작성자] 2022년 6월 6일 오전 11시 28분 
@Noremac I'm glad you're enjoying this controller, it's true, it might be a little be more difficult to set up than your regular *whatever* controller but you have to keep in mind that this piece of kit controls the entire ship in some tricky weather conditions so it needs a bit of care to get right. As to the problem you're experiencing - I've been aware that this might be an issue as this sometimes did pop up in the testing and sometimes didn't. It's because it uses a very dated (and not particularly good) heading hold autopilot I made back when I was starting out making controllers but I never considered improving on it as I thought that if it only *sometimes* happens on this one *particular* direction out of all of them in this one *particular* mode - it won't be much of an issue - which at the time was a very poor excuse for me not to fix this issue. I haven't played the game in a good while but when I find the time I will look into it and come up with a better solution :)
Noremac 2022년 6월 2일 오후 5시 56분 
Awesome controller, thanks for sharing it. A little tricky to get working well, figured out big motors and props work way better than small motors and props. Big problem I'm having right now is it seems to get confused while heading hold is enabled around the 360-0 heading. So if its set to 358 and wind rotates my ship past the 360-0 heading the DP goes max rotation clockwise slamming the ship into the dock.
Hunter Falkner  [작성자] 2022년 5월 21일 오후 2시 51분 
@Yarick you will need to have an intermediate controller that will actuate the reverser doors on the waterjets as turning the waterjets in the opposite direction will not create opposite thrust. If you want to use waterjets with differential steering provided by a controller then you should also subscribe to the DP raw value conversion kit which will allow you to turn thruster commands into generalized motion commands.
Yarick1 2022년 5월 21일 오후 1시 26분 
can i use (water) jets with this MC?
Ronchi 2022년 3월 16일 오후 7시 31분 
Thanks for the response.
Hunter Falkner  [작성자] 2022년 3월 16일 오전 10시 03분 
Yes, if that becomes an issue the calibrating program will display INVERT TUNNEL in the BIT COMPLETE screen. There is no option for that in the properties (yet, might be a good idea to add it if I decide to revise the chip) and you will have to either multiply tunnel thruster outputs by -1 or invert the tunnel propellers so they point the other direction. The option in the properties is for rudder steering when not in DP.
Ronchi 2022년 3월 16일 오전 7시 28분 
Thank you so much, really appreaciate it. One question, I saw in earlier comments someone had to invert their thrusters, will the calibration advise of this if it is required ? And what is inverted steering for in the properties.

Cheers,
Hunter Falkner  [작성자] 2022년 3월 15일 오전 10시 27분 
@Ronchi I'm glad you're enjoying it. If you're talking about utilising the tunnel thrusters automatically to aid turning - I suppose it could be integrated. I haven't looked at this microcontroller in a while and it could definitely use a small revision, I'll look into integrating such a system :)
Ronchi 2022년 3월 15일 오전 7시 36분 
This is awesome, thanks heaps, any chance of adding functionality so this MC could also assist my boat in normal turns to increase the turn speed ?
chevelle_rr1 2022년 2월 23일 오후 5시 12분 
That confused me was the invert tunnel. I seen there was a option in the menu and thought when I select it the microcontroler would invert it in software. Didn't understand that it wanted my to physically flip them. Aside from that yes it was very straight forward and easy to set up.
Hunter Falkner  [작성자] 2022년 2월 23일 오전 7시 35분 
I am glad it works for you. I tried to make the system as easy to install and calibrate as possible but it is quite a complex package so mistakes can be made. Enjoy!
chevelle_rr1 2022년 2월 22일 오후 7시 01분 
Its all good now. I downloaded a few other ships with the system and seen how they had it set up. I increased the size of my thrusters but what was killing me was the inverted tunnel. Tested her in near 100% wind and happy with the results.
Hunter Falkner  [작성자] 2022년 2월 22일 오후 12시 29분 
Hey guys, sorry for the late response, I haven't been checking the workshop for a while.

@Reddixa: Yes, absolutely, just connect the rudder without the microcontroller.

@chevelle_rr1: No wind and a runaway sounds like a positioning data issue. Please make sure the system is fed GPS X into GPS X and GPS Y into GPS Y and not crossed over as in GPS X into GPS Y port and vice versa. Also please make sure the compass is heading the correct heading of the ship. And make sure the calibrating program didn't show the "invert tunnel" message and if it did - you will need to fix that too.
chevelle_rr1 2022년 2월 10일 오전 10시 32분 
Ive been working on this for to many hours and need some advice. I have it all installed. Did the test and gave me 28 for main and 100 on the tunnel. Tried that and no luck. I started to manual tune it. At this point when I turn it on perfect for the first min or two. After that it gets a small drift that shouldn't be a problem but it turn into a runaway. This is all with wind turned off for testing. Any ideas?
Reddixa 2022년 2월 6일 오후 8시 37분 
Thank you for this awesome mod! Is it possible to use this with propeller thrusters instead of Azimuth?
5m0k3r 2021년 10월 15일 오전 5시 14분 
It´s already awesome just for the description.
Hunter Falkner  [작성자] 2021년 9월 25일 오전 6시 41분 
It is going to spin by design and then drive forwards to calibrate thruster power. You need to wait for it to finish the calibration and display the recommended values.
JET_FUELD_KID 2021년 9월 4일 오후 4시 09분 
Hey I don't what I'm doing wrong but every time i try and calibrate it just spins in a circle.
Hunter Falkner  [작성자] 2021년 7월 18일 오후 3시 58분 
I put that in the FAQ but it doesn't pop up as the featured discussion for some reason.

VANE will turn the vessel bow first into the wind to reduce effects of waves and wind on it.
HDG will maintain current heading.
Neither will leave the ship free to turn on its own.
Popeye 2021년 7월 18일 오후 3시 53분 
What's the difference between vane and heading?
Herze 2021년 6월 3일 오전 10시 58분 
Howdy, I've incorporated this into my ship: https://steamproxy.net/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2502671140 With credit given in multiple places in the desc. Thanks for making this!
Hunter Falkner  [작성자] 2021년 4월 29일 오후 2시 21분 
Thanks for the screenshot, I'll definitely look into this
ScraM177-RGL 2021년 4월 29일 오후 1시 08분 
Here is a screenshoot

https://imgur.com/a/ttJFjdk

Thanks for your awesome work!
Hunter Falkner  [작성자] 2021년 4월 29일 오전 10시 02분 
Oh... I should look into this, the system did inherit some imperfections with the calibrating mode introduction that I have never got around to ironing out so that might be 100% my fault, although this is the first time I'm ever hearing of this bug. Either way I'm super happy it works for you, enjoy it!
ScraM177-RGL 2021년 4월 29일 오전 7시 18분 
Thank you!! I added the steering output to my own steering diff throttle and it works perfectly. I have a problem on experimental (0.0.67) that sometimes, after a while using DP, the Calibration Screen appears overlapping the main screen, but the positioning keeps working OK.
Hunter Falkner  [작성자] 2021년 4월 29일 오전 3시 53분 
Connect bow and stern thrusters as normal and to the main thrusters you can only connect the forward/reverse throttle and ignore the steering altogether, it's not necessary for DP operation, it only aids it by not a significant amount. Do steering however you want. Just get the forwards/reverse throttle from the microcontroller as out of DP it will simply pass through the steering input and in DP it will do its own thing.
ScraM177-RGL 2021년 4월 28일 오후 3시 25분 
I have a ship that uses both bow and stern thrusters, and main electrics with differential steering. How can I connect this MC ?
Hunter Falkner  [작성자] 2021년 3월 26일 오후 6시 17분 
<3
Lt-Laverdure 2021년 3월 26일 오후 2시 30분 
Being a DP operator I find this amazing that you created such a complex system in Stormworks, congrats man!
.bishop 2021년 3월 24일 오후 4시 58분 
hi, can it be that "Stern Tunnel Thruster manual Power" and "Bow Tunnel Thruster manual Power" settings are reversed?
Hunter Falkner  [작성자] 2021년 3월 12일 오전 9시 29분 
The facing of the speed sensor is not important, that's why it's not specified. Also the composite channels are described when you hover over them :)
uli_build 2021년 3월 12일 오전 2시 31분 
Maybe also clearly say what composit channel is what in the description