Haydee
Orange
54 Comments
xs2007 5 Oct, 2024 @ 4:40pm 
Also unlockable shortcuts are missing, like in the central staircase, to get from 1F/2F to 2F/3F was always tedious and was required a lot. And also sometimes, it was possible to softlock oneself to be required to reload the game, that shoul never happen, imho. I liked, though, that you were able to access all areas, that were visible throughout the game, especially iteration 3 had a nice closing in that regard.

Also, the room with the remote has a problem: When you go left between all the waiting slashies and head to the far wall, you can easily jump on the pipe from there and just kill all slashies without problem, because they won't attack you. You can also grab the remote without pliers like that.

Overall I'd say 7 out of 10, certainly above average, only bugs as described above and execution dragging it a bit down. Keep up the good work, if you're still creating maps. :) ありがとうございました
xs2007 5 Oct, 2024 @ 4:39pm 
Overall very creative idea with the iterations, and with the complexity of some rooms I can see how much effort went into the creation. On some parts, though, it felt like I did things, that I wasn't supposed to do and shouldn't be able to do. Like at the end of iteration 1, I still had my yellow keycard and did not loot the pliers at all . At the end of iteration 2, I still had the white keycard. I also was somehow able to play the path to the last keycard of iteration 3 in reverse order during iteration 2 and was confused as hell, when I hit a closed door with the keycard reader being on the other side. And also wondered, why the textures of the path leading there were broken. The one you're probably supposed to only see from below, where it is invisible. Also - while I get why you placed the pitch black darkness in a lot of places - it makes playing the map quite tiresome sometimes (with or without night vision).
xs2007 5 Oct, 2024 @ 4:39pm 
A bit late to the party, but just finished playing Orange. I finished all 3 iterations, though I had to rely on the walkthrough a few times, especially starting out the third one and in iteration 2 I did not open the room with the empty socket, and there was no indication, what I could do to open it, or what was required. Also the walkthrough didn't really help, because arriving at that part, the door was just open, because you unlocked it some time earlier.
MechaRyu 24 Apr, 2024 @ 7:30am 
Insane map

I had a really good time, and the three iteration thing was great

well done
gamemanimani  [author] 1 Jan, 2021 @ 10:08pm 
@含笑半步颠
Thank you for playing and teaching correct English.
gamemanimani  [author] 2 Dec, 2020 @ 7:49am 
@squallsquare2008

I recognize that this is designed so that it can be cleared without watching the video.
Still, I'm relieved to hear the report that someone was able to clear it like you.

Thank you for playing. I'm glad I was able to give you the video.
squallsquare2008 1 Dec, 2020 @ 5:50am 
I did finish the second iteration on my own, but barely.
I was almost stuck on a certain point and got through it later purely out of luck. It was in the room behind the room with pink key lock, where there were some ducts getting in my way. I couldn't get past them for a while and got so mad that I hit my keyboard like crazy as if I could force Haydee through the ducts by doing that. But it did, just like a miracle. Until then not a second before I realized I can get on a duct by walking in crouch and ONLY AT A 45 DEGREE ANGLE I can't help but think
How scrupulous you are that you noticed such small detail supposedly in original Haydee!
How creative you are merging this detail into your custom map!

I've received your email. To my surprise, there is still only a link to the download site even though the file is less than 50Mb. But then more to my surprise, I found I can access and download from that site.
Anyway, I got your video. Thanks a lot.
gamemanimani  [author] 30 Nov, 2020 @ 8:30am 
@squallsquare2008

I'm glad you finished the second iteration without any hints.

I had a hard time getting the video to less than 50mb, but it was easy with only third iteration.
I sent it now, so please check it.

But, if possible, try to solve it instead of seeing the correct answer on video.

Hint
Like the second iteration, the third iteration can be broken through by exploring a dark room, relying on your memory .
squallsquare2008 30 Nov, 2020 @ 5:19am 
Yes, please.
I am really at my wit's end after I completed my second iteration by having to kill another Haydee(the master?) . I know there must have been something amiss during my second iteration but I completely have no idea what. Gotta need some help for my third iteration.
gamemanimani  [author] 29 Nov, 2020 @ 4:15am 
@squallsquare2008

The video is expected to be sent tomorrow or the day after tomorrow.

I don't know the cause of the bug. There is a possibility that Haydee itself is defective, so it may be a problem that you should contact the developer.
squallsquare2008 28 Nov, 2020 @ 11:25pm 
By the way, what caused the bug?
Does it have something to with too many mods that I should unsubscribe?
squallsquare2008 28 Nov, 2020 @ 11:10pm 
YES YES YES, exactly as you said there is a padlock-image.
Oh, my dear God! I can't believe I got stuck for so loooooooooooog because of a bug. I knew it's way too weird since I had checked every last corner I could go, literally.
Anyway, thank you for pointing out. Now I am kind of rest assured that problem will be solved by starting over.

For the capaticy:
When within 50Mb, I can directly download file(s) from my email. So it's feasible as long as you lower the video quality and separate it into several .rar parts within the limit.
Otherwise, it's classified as super large file that I will only get from my email a link to a net disk related to your email, telling me to download from there. Problem is I am not sure if I can access your net disk because of the same reason of restriction in my country.
However, I think it can wait for now since I know the solution. I may check your video later as a last resort only if I am stuck like hell. Thank you.
gamemanimani  [author] 28 Nov, 2020 @ 7:43am 
@squallsquare2008

When you get close to the orange dot, do you see a padlock-image indicating that it is locked?

If so, it's a bug. I have never locked the vents directly.
I experienced the same thing with maps made by others.
It's a hassle, but I think it can be fixed by starting over.

Email is more helpful ...
Is there a limit to the capacity that can be received? If you tell me that, I will adjust or divide the video quality accordingly.
squallsquare2008 27 Nov, 2020 @ 9:53pm 
Gotta explain a little about the "locked air vent":
I have already got the screw driver and opened the grate of the air vent in the lift room.
Then I walked along the ducts in crouch, took some turnings and finally reached another air vent locked by a square thing(too dark to see clearly) with orange dot on it. It looks more like a hatch than a grate which stopped me from going farther.

Much obliged that you think about upload videos to some service I can access.
You may try:
https://www.bilibili.com/
https://www.youku.com/
But neither of them have English or Japanese option. I am afraid that you may encounter difficulties.

If the way above doesn't work, would you please send me one by attachment, that can help me through my stuck point, to my email squallsquare2008@sina.com? How big is your video file when separated into small ones?
gamemanimani  [author] 27 Nov, 2020 @ 4:13am 
@squallsquare2008

I see, you haven't got a screwdriver yet.
Find it first to unlock the vent.

Is there a video service that can be viewed?
I may be able to upload videos to that service.
squallsquare2008 27 Nov, 2020 @ 2:26am 
Do you mean the save room next to the lower floor of lift? It only leads to the room where I need to switch wifi on walls to get through.
Or do you mean the room next to the upper floor of lift? It leads me to the room where I get the remote, then to a dark room ,then finally to the room where the other green card will be placed.
Both no luck on finding the way to the top of the duct.
I also tried the ducts on upper floor of lift, it leads me to a locked air vent, so I suppose it's a dead end for now. Have I missed something?

Because of the restriction in my country I can't access your video as well as Google, You tube, twitter,etc, unless I have some VPN installed which is beyond my knowledge and illegal.

Sorry for the inconvenience caused, I really hope I can finish this map even if darkness is really annoying sometimes. For the rest part of "Orange" I will try to figure things out myself unless really stuck.
gamemanimani  [author] 26 Nov, 2020 @ 9:34am 
@squallsquare2008

The other green card, as you can see, is in the four bridge rooms.
Did you go to the room with the lift next to there? To get to the top of the duct, go through it .

By the way, why can't you watch the video?
At this rate, we will have to comment 100 times until you clear it.
Rather than asking me here, you might want to make an effort to watch the video.
squallsquare2008 26 Nov, 2020 @ 7:38am 
About the green card, one was found in the room next to the room using purple card to get in , can't find the other one.
squallsquare2008 26 Nov, 2020 @ 6:48am 
I resorted to getting a wifi because I really don't know how to proceed after spending several hours looking for any possible detail that I might have overlooked. Still, no more progress was made.
Now I know I get stuck a big time since wifi is not a solution for the time being.
I have already got one green card and had it used, but WHERE CAN I FIND THE OTHER GREEN CARD?
I found a grate, to open it I need to press 4 buttons(which make bridge appear and disappear) in right sequence. And I know number 2 is the tricky one because it looks like dropping down from the ducts above is the only way since the bridge to it must be down as long as the grate outside the button is removed. HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO GET TO THE DUCTS?
AM I GETTING CLOSE TO GET THE NIGHT VISION?
Any other clue(s) about what I should do is highly appreciated!


gamemanimani  [author] 26 Nov, 2020 @ 4:15am 
@squallsquare2008
Thank you for playing this too.

You are not in a situation to get any of them right now.
After getting the night vision, you can.
squallsquare2008 26 Nov, 2020 @ 12:04am 
So I see being surrounded in darkness in some areas is the way meant to be played,fair enough.
I am kind of stuck on getting a wifi. Even though I found 3 in their respective places,I just can't get(or take away) any of them. (What a pain in the ass that I can't access your video).
1st one in the same room on the ceiling just above the platform where I took the remote controller, it looks like it's too high to reach. 2nd one in a room where there are 2 slashers waiting to ambush you. I had to remove the wifi from one button and put it on the other button to get out of the room. So technically I can't get this wifi either. 3rd one on the right side of a room, the left side door of which I used a purple card to open. Looks like to get there I gotta enter from the right side door. To reach that door from what I see I gotta use another wifi to control which grate door to open from the room next to it, and the problem is I don't have any wifi.
Man, help me out, thank you in advance.
gamemanimani  [author] 21 Nov, 2020 @ 7:43pm 
@squallsquare2008
Night vision can be found in the right circumstances, so you don't have to look for it hard. Please focus on finding other items.
squallsquare2008 21 Nov, 2020 @ 6:36am 
Where are the goddamn NIGHT VISION GOGGLES?
I was having fun until darkness getting on my nerves
gamemanimani  [author] 22 Oct, 2020 @ 8:39pm 
@katsurou69
わ、嬉しい! ファイトです!
nupu-nupu 20 Oct, 2020 @ 5:33am 
面白い!公式の追加マップかとおもったぐらいです。さて、2周めがんばるか!
gamemanimani  [author] 11 Aug, 2020 @ 9:05am 
@τsu
Thank you for your comment.
I am glad that you understand the characteristics of my map well.
gamemanimani  [author] 11 Aug, 2020 @ 9:02am 
@Anon Q
Thank you for your reply.

Are you pointing out how to get night vision?
As you say, it's nearly impossible to take without knowing how.
You will know how to take it at the end of the first iteration. I do not envision taking night vision without completing the first iteration.
τsu 10 Aug, 2020 @ 3:32pm 
@Anon Q
Sorry for meddling, just my two cents.
What you called "excessive use of pitch blackness" is exactly what the map design is based on, IMO. It's not a poor way to make the map harder, it is what make the map harder. It would be a poor way if the creator just made an entire map with lights on, turned them off then threw the player in, but as you can notice if you play far enough all the rooms and areas were thought with the darkness in mind, it cleary is part of the gameplay.
If you already completed the main game this map sure is a step forward in the difficulty.
If you overcome the troubles darkness bring on playing this map is very rewarding.
:praisesun:
Anon Q 10 Aug, 2020 @ 2:24pm 
You used lighting well to guide the player in multiple places but it's just that first room where there's no light outside of a lock and two doors and some of the areas after that. I didn't even realize I could jump in some places and I would just jump and crawl at things for minutes on end trying to find where to go. I feel the addition of even just tiny slivers of light to those areas could help make them a lot less disorienting and confusing, they don't even have to be where you need to go.
gamemanimani  [author] 9 Aug, 2020 @ 10:40pm 
@Anon Q
Thank you for your comment!

>use of pitch blackness (at least in the beginning) is a very poor way to make the map harder.
I know. So I always try to shine light on what you need to see or to make the silhouette stand out. I understand your thoughts, but it's not easy to darken. It's much easier to make it brighter. You don't have to see what you can't see. And there's a reason for making it dark.

>Either hide the night visor in the beginning or add little bits of light to guide the player because in it's current state the map is borderline impossible without a guide along with it being very easy to softlock.
I know that getting night visor is very hard. But, I don't think that nobody get it without guide. In the original Haydee, you can get a crowbar without night vision. I think it's harder to notice it than this map.
Anon Q 9 Aug, 2020 @ 8:15pm 
I've been trying to play through this map and it's not bad but the excessive use of pitch blackness (at least in the beginning) is a very poor way to make the map harder. Either hide the night visor in the beginning or add little bits of light to guide the player because in it's current state the map is borderline impossible without a guide along with it being very easy to softlock.
gamemanimani  [author] 18 Jul, 2020 @ 2:26am 
@τsu
I'm glad to hear that.

I think quality will improve if there is no deadline.
τsu 17 Jul, 2020 @ 10:37pm 
I asked because Orange is pretty well made, in a professional level, I guess
gamemanimani  [author] 17 Jul, 2020 @ 9:41pm 
@τsu
Thanks!

Are you asking about my profession?
No, I'm not. The main business is completely unrelated.
τsu 17 Jul, 2020 @ 12:32pm 
You bet I'm gonna play your next work, be it easier or not! :praisesun:
Thanks for your hard work, and congrats once again!
Btw, are you a game dev or something?
gamemanimani  [author] 17 Jul, 2020 @ 5:07am 
@τsu
Thank you for playing very much!
I am very sorry for the late reply.

I was worried that no one would do it until the end of the third lap, so I am very happy to hear from you.
In the original Haydee, if I go straight through the darkness, I can get a crowbar without night vision.
I was inspired by this and thought about how to start the third iteration.

Next time, I'm working on making something a little easier, so I would appreciate your favor.
τsu 16 Jul, 2020 @ 9:40pm 
Can you hear that? This lonely and explosive sound? Yes, It's me clapping effusively after have finished the third iteration!
I have to say I didnt know even how to start the third iteration lol I had to watch the begining of the walkthrough.
About the map overall, all the connections, the details... I almost gave up when, at the of the end of the second iteration I had to backtrack all the map searching for the combinations (I knew they were important but I didnt take them serious enough -_-'), I was so pissed but so excited at the same time xD
The final touch to get the orange card at the third iteration, figuirng out how to get to that door... It's just fantastic, I have no more to say. This map takes Haydee to another level.
Congrats!
:p2chell:
τsu 13 Jul, 2020 @ 7:36pm 
This map is AMAZING!! I just finished the first iteration and that was fantastic! How can it have only 4 stars??
The map is hard, and for me it was even harder, cause the darkness make it more difficult to memorize all the paths, rooms and where each door lead to, I didnt realize I was so dependant of light to memorize the areas while playing the main game.
Not sure if you did it on purpose or if the darkness affects only me that way, but sure it's fun!
Now, I'm gonna do the other iterations.
Cheers! :p2cube:
gamemanimani  [author] 11 Jul, 2020 @ 6:48pm 
@Nightmare
そうですね、暗闇とか細い光って感じでしょうか。

ありがとうございます!
難しいマップは数が少ないので頑張って作るんですが、バランスが難しくてやたら不親切になりがちなのです。最後まで頑張っていただけたら幸いです。
Nightmare 11 Jul, 2020 @ 11:52am 
なるほど、一周目のテーマは暗闇かな

初見殺しが多いけど面白いマップだね
gamemanimani  [author] 11 Jul, 2020 @ 9:44am 
@Nightmare
くの字の階段があって、中央にリフトのある部屋ですよね?
リフトに向かって左側の箱から上へ登れるようになっています。
Nightmare 11 Jul, 2020 @ 9:15am 
https://steamproxy.net/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2162595761

攻略動画を見るが前提となるマップでした

詰んだ
gamemanimani  [author] 7 Jun, 2020 @ 7:44am 
@✪ ΗΣΚΤΙΚ
Did you move the room as shown in the video, but the lights are off?
Or from the moment you start the game?
If so, it's a bug, so unsubscribe, then go back and try again.

By the way, there are rooms that are not illuminated.
ΗΣΚΤΙΚ ✞ 7 Jun, 2020 @ 7:32am 
@gamemanimani the gameplay you posted down below was lit fine tho
gamemanimani  [author] 7 Jun, 2020 @ 5:19am 
@✪ ΗΣΚΤΙΚ
Forgive me.

You don't have to see what you can't see.
However, do not neglect the observation.
ΗΣΚΤΙΚ ✞ 7 Jun, 2020 @ 5:07am 
wtf everyting is just black like the lighting doesnt work
gamemanimani  [author] 6 Jun, 2020 @ 6:16am 
@Smug aya
Thanks.
Make a map you too!
Fumo Bnnuy n Frends 6 Jun, 2020 @ 12:38am 
nice a new map is always welcomed but this looks nice
gamemanimani  [author] 5 Jun, 2020 @ 10:59pm 
@killer60378
>The ammunition is in the room with the gun. There are 20 rounds.
Exactly.

>It's too dark. Where's the night vision?
It will not be available for the time being.
Click here for details.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZIJ4eRvhEI
gamemanimani  [author] 5 Jun, 2020 @ 10:54pm 
@ShimaRin_MMT3
残念、仕事(学業?)を頑張ってください!
待ってます、ありがとう!