[RTB] Sarianos - The concrete floor & paved tile from the base game

Does this patch anything to actually be made from concrete?

1.5 update here:
https://steamproxy.net/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3380014166

can anyone please update this mod for 1.5? dev seemingly doesnt give a damn

Doesn't work in 1.5, any plans for an update?

Oh cool. Last time i looked that was all but impossible, i guess Biotech must've changed something lol

Hi all! Alpha Genes mod introduces genes to eat rocks so yes maybe you can eat concrete

Well, that's a pity.
Waiting for a fix to make it more realistic soon!

Concrete is not edible, no.

...unless someone's made a mod adding a species which eats rocks 🤔

The comment under is vital for my 500% difficulty ice sheet run.

can you eat this?

@pedroekh as well. Thank you both for the kind words!

@montanoc70 Thanks for the info, I've tagged it as compatible.

Love it, can't play without this mod. Luckly it's still working on 1.4

@pedroekh Probably at some point, still depressed as ♥♥♥♥ lol

But thanks for the comment! I'm glad you enjoy it :P

Any chance on getting a 1.4?
Albeit simple, this mod became essential to me. Can't play without it anymore. This should be in vanilla.

No problem! :P

Ah. Thanks! Love the mod :)

@Great Leader The biofuel refinery, which you get from researching Biofuel Refining. IIRC this mod renames both to not include the word "biofuel" since it now also produces concrete.

Sorry to bother you. What do you mean by a refinery when you're describing how to concrete? I don't see a new bench and I can't find the bench I need to produce concrete. Thanks!

But I only saw one (1.1) dll file in the Steam folder, as well as another dll in a "debug" folder on Github.

The wiki has a good example of loadfolders.xml IIRC.

@brucethemoose That might be it. Might also be loadfolders.xml ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ up? it didn't seem to work as i understood it for another mod i was trying to update a bit ago

You're not wrong though, I don't see anything in the source that prints those debug lines... maybe the steam dll is old?

Err yesterday technically :P

1.3, just posted today.

@brucethemoose oof sorry, that's super old debug code. what game version are you on? as far as I can tell this hasn't even been in the testing version since 1.1.

Hey, it seems that this is spamming the log whenever the concrete production recipes are used. Could you disable the logging, or at least restrict it to god mode?

https://gist.github.com/HugsLibRecordKeeper/22b9c27dc351c7e5a316096b64b023da#file-output_log-txt-L3003-L3082

@FoxoManiak Thanks for the feedback, but I'm not going to balance around the game's wealth system being broken.

It makes sense for concrete to be more valuable than stone you mine from the ground, given the additional work involved, and the difference in wealth isn't significant unless you're playing on the highest difficulties and really min-maxing your wealth.

Hey so i like this mod because building floor out of precious steel was always bugging me, but i have a small "issue" with something, so concrete in life points is between limestone and granite, but things made of it are almost double the cost of granite, for example from the single test i made a granite wall gives 5 to value for a room, while a concrete wall gives a 9.

I will most likely still use this mod but it's just something that might be annoying for people which don't want more tribals attack them because they heard that the person build some fresh concrete walls.

Thank you for reading

@dninemfive i bet it's half-baked. All of oskar's mods are half-baked, like big doughy bagels.

That makes sense, most items do stack to 75. Like I said it's just been a byproduct of seeing massive piles of rock vanish into tiny sand piles lol. I look forward to seeing the new sprite and thanks for taking the time to consider the change : )

@Roy Yeah, I've wanted to update that sprite for a while. My original idea was for bags of cement, but I didn't have the art skills at the time and just haven't gotten around to it now that I do.

They stack to 75 mainly for consistency with other building materials rather than any logical stack limit. I try to stay consistent with vanilla rather than applying logic, and I can't think of any vanilla building materials with a lower stack count off the top of my head.

Realistically, the amount of cement produced from a chunk would be significantly smaller than the size of the chunk, since you're burning away byproducts, but the ratio would not be as drastic as it is now.

Thanks for taking the time to think about this so much, lol. I'll try and work on the texture in the near future, but I can't make any promises since I'm dealing with a lot of burnout atm.

Hey, I wanted to say this mod is a must have on my mod list and it's made concrete flooring into an actual useful floor and not just a waste of steel. There is one thing that I feel like doesn't fit vanilla though.

When you break down stone chunks or stone blocks into cement it reduces what is a very large item down to a very small number, which can then be stacked up to 75. For example I can turn a whole zone of stone chunks into 1-2 stacks of cement. Maybe there is a way to make this less drastic? say only allowing cement to stack to 10 or making the bills produce and cost more cement so piles accumulate faster? and maybe making the sprite look like a decent sized pile of material?

I feel like I'm turning whole yards of rock into a couple piles of salt atm.

@siswai'aman I had plans to add a reinforced wall, but Oskar made one so I've been a bit demotivated lol

it bothers me that i can't reinforce this concrete with steel rebar, but it's cheaper so that's nice

Ahhhh, looks like it was Best Mix doing it. I guess I was only making concrete. Sorry!

Yeah, I have literally no Log calls and I've fixed all errors I'm aware of.

@Neptimus7 Wym? As far as I know, nothing is written to the debug log in normal gameplay.

Is there a way to not have so much stuff written to the debug log?

That would make sense too unless you happened to have a spike...trap.. mold? I raised the work multiplier to 4 for now and I'm satisfied with it

@Sigil It's in line with wood, and makes sense for things like walls where concrete is super fast to pour. I'm more likely to just prevent it from being available for things like traps, to be honest.

I really enjoy the system this mod adds, a way to consolidate all the random chunks and added work to make them both uniform in color and stronger.

However, I found the required work involved to use the material way too low. A limestone spike trap takes 323 while a concrete trap takes 27... I can understand that it'd be easier to work with but it shouldn't obsolete the construction job. Gonna make a modification on the material but I figure'd I'd throw a comment here for it. Thanks for the mod!

DAS CONK CREET BAYBEE

@Emelio Lizardo No conflicts with RimRoads. I don't think it'd conflict with RF concrete, but there's no reason to use both afaik.

Any conflict with RF concrete? Or Rimroad?

@lilwhitemouse Coulda sworn I removed that from the final build, oops :P

I review any pull requests, if it looks good I'll accept!

Your mod prints "test" in the debug log when it loads by the way

I've been there :)

Also, do you take compatibility pull requests?

Hey just wanted to say I've been playing with your mod for a while now and I'm really happy with the system you made for producing concrete.

Either way thanks for letting me know, at least I know now it doesn't occur from this mod.