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RimWorld

No "Ate Without A Table"
46 Comments
Kenzie_SFT 1 Jul, 2023 @ 7:42am 
Thank you. All my guys get this debuff no matter what I've been doing. They sit at tables just fine - and they all permanently have this debuff in every game, no matter what I do.
This "debuff" is totally broken and the fix is a mod like this.
Fiur 30 Jul, 2022 @ 5:55am 
Can someone update this please...
Wilihey 4 Feb, 2021 @ 10:55am 
i was using this mod and i still had the ate without a table debuff so i think its not working properly, i dont have the knowledge to fix it so rip i guess
Fiur 13 Nov, 2020 @ 12:20pm 
@Frenchiveruti - that's actually dumb. xD
Mur Derer 25 Sep, 2020 @ 10:53am 
@Lan McG so?
Lan McG 11 Sep, 2020 @ 3:01pm 
Working in 1.2? Gonna try it anyway...
Hedgie 2 May, 2020 @ 10:04am 
You've done the first step, you now need to open up rimworld and click on mods, hopefully you can see this mod, then click on the red cross, and you should be able to use it
@nocturna76
NoCTuRNa 30 Apr, 2020 @ 7:41am 
ok, i've never used steam workshop for any game mods before, so be gentle, but it says 'subscribe to download'... well i subscribed & still can't find any download option anywhere. what am i missing?
Frenchiveruti 9 Apr, 2020 @ 10:03am 
Hello there! Can you make the same idea but for "soaking wet" debuff? Thanks
ksymicek 6 Mar, 2020 @ 1:45pm 
Thanks CrunchyDuck
CrunchyDuck  [author] 4 Mar, 2020 @ 10:18am 
Updated, but not tested. Should work.
ksymicek 27 Feb, 2020 @ 6:33pm 
Love this mod, will it be updated for 1.1?
Phil 6 Feb, 2020 @ 11:47am 
Thank you! This stupid debuff is ridiculous when I have a 250 beauty dining room literally RIGHT THERE!!
108_Robotic 26 Jun, 2019 @ 9:28am 
no u :br_shock:
handsomegrape 26 Jun, 2019 @ 9:25am 
What? It doesn't remove it? Doesn't that mean that the last straw BS happens anyways? If so your mod does nothing.

I had a hardened raider recruited with not a single negative trait but dammit if he wasn't gonna take lack of tables in the freezer sitting down....uh standing up. He flipped...not the table, that he didn't have.
Kordath Invictus 18 Jan, 2019 @ 9:45pm 
but still, gotta laugh and try to imagine,
you are bleeding from all holes, you are sick, your lover died, your dog died, your friend died, you ate a person.
but what was the last straw?
'ate wthout a table'
Enlonwhite 10 Nov, 2018 @ 6:22pm 
This mod helps, me have a colony and know. That tables are not the cause of insane rampage deaths.......tho the rampages can still happen. The tables are innocent of all guilt.
CrunchyDuck  [author] 27 Oct, 2018 @ 7:59pm 
Heya @mister_aesthetic21, to my knowledge it is 1.0.0. I checked both on my local files and in my workshop files, and both are at that version.
CrunchyDuck  [author] 17 Oct, 2018 @ 9:56pm 
thank you, my son. it's good to see one ascend, and finally join our ranks. i welcome you with open space where the table would normally be
the milk man 17 Oct, 2018 @ 8:25pm 
I have hidden myself for a long time,
and i have realized that
eating without a table should not cause depression.
I now understand this mod.
CrunchyDuck  [author] 17 Oct, 2018 @ 6:56pm 
Oohh, that sucks. I hope using XML doesn't limit you too much. When I get back in to the swing of modding, after I finish up learning C#, maybe I'll be able to help you out with some ideas.
MasonNasty 17 Oct, 2018 @ 6:05pm 
Hahaha I feel you; I had the exact same reason. I attempted to make a mod a few months back and what I suggested what on the list, but I met the same roadblock: I don't really know any C# yet. Had to abandon my projects until I take those classes a couple semesters from now.
Glad we both agree with the idea though :)
CrunchyDuck  [author] 17 Oct, 2018 @ 5:02pm 
I did look in to this, Mason, but I had a lot of issue getting that to work.
From looking through the code, it seems that the +3 buff is written somewhere in the C# code, which I don't have much experience in. I do intend on coming back at a later date, when I finish my C# courses, to make a separate mod to work in this fashion.
MasonNasty 17 Oct, 2018 @ 2:48pm 
HeyCrunchyDuck, please hear me out, I have a simple balance idea:

Rather than gain a -3 debuff for eating without a table, one should instead gain a +3 buff for eating with a table.

Nobody should feel mad about eating on the floor, rather they should feel good when they dont have to. Do you feel that change would be unbalanced or unrealistic?
CrunchyDuck  [author] 3 Oct, 2018 @ 7:21am 
when you expand your mind, you understand, that you are the table. you become one with the table. Your legs, the table's legs. Your mouth, the table's top. Only when you understand this, will you be able to advance in life.
the milk man 2 Oct, 2018 @ 9:46pm 
this is BY FAR the mod that ANGERS me the MOST
How can you NOT play RIMWORLD without EATING WITHOUT A TABLE and BEING SAD ABOUT IT
BrontoMan 28 Sep, 2018 @ 10:10pm 
thanks!
Quilboar 16 Sep, 2018 @ 1:12pm 
mod for wusses
Chicken Plucker 15 Sep, 2018 @ 2:45pm 
eating without a table has become a core feature in the game, I don't know if I can deal with the huge changes to gameplay but life starts at the end of the comfort zone
CrunchyDuck  [author] 14 Sep, 2018 @ 7:44am 
thank.
Avericat 14 Sep, 2018 @ 7:43am 
I appreciate and love the time you spend slaving away at blocks of code.
I'm InDaSkies 12 Sep, 2018 @ 2:46pm 
I eat without a table than kill my friends and family irl all the time. It's totally a realistic debuff, and the fact that this mod exist just proves that humans are going downhill.
CrunchyDuck  [author] 11 Sep, 2018 @ 5:54pm 
You can check in the files, though I'm currently using a patch operation replace on the duration of the ThoughtDef.

If you delete the def, it will throw an error any time you consume a meal. The same happens if you set the duration to zero. Currently it's actually set to 0.0001 days, as that's the shortest time that it made a noticable difference.
Butifarro 11 Sep, 2018 @ 5:29pm 
Which patch did you use?
If the problem is that you need it to last more than zero, maybe you should try with 0.0001 or something like that xD
CrunchyDuck  [author] 11 Sep, 2018 @ 4:24pm 
Heya Tagiou,
I considered doing that, but I know RimWorld often throws errors if you give a value that lasts lest than a tick.

But I checked, by putting it to said value, just to make sure, and as expected, it threw this [imgur.com] error. I appreciate the suggestion, though.

If my knowledge of C# programming expands, I'll possibly be able to completely remove the thought from appearing in the future.
Butifarro 11 Sep, 2018 @ 3:57pm 
You could also patch duration to 0, so you don't even notice it.
BeanSlinger419 11 Sep, 2018 @ 1:39pm 
Finally my Colonists wont break due to this ridiculus Debuff
Enlonwhite 11 Sep, 2018 @ 11:36am 
And I doubt you start off with a Fine dining hall at first, so the Ate with table would be the true starting point, plus I am sure the +3 mood buff would be Fair and still work in the vanilla game balance.
Also it just makes no sense on this as a debuff that can Break a pawn, mood bonus makes more sense.
Worst case you just use a mod like this one, and no debuff at all. Cause the table brings them to the fine dining room to eat.
Enlonwhite 11 Sep, 2018 @ 11:32am 
As a learning Dungeon Master, the rule that seems to best fit a story is, Reward dont punish, unless the player does somethng really stupid and you warned them before hand.

This is a story driven game am I right?
CrunchyDuck  [author] 11 Sep, 2018 @ 11:08am 
I intended to make the "Ate with a table" a separate mod to avoid people from having to be paired with it if they wished not to.

Said proposed mod shouldn't effect you, in that case.
Meat Man (Alfons) 11 Sep, 2018 @ 8:21am 
In my opinion, it shouldn't be an 'Ate with table' buff, since they'll still get a bonus from eating in a Dining hall and also enjoing sitting in the chair.
CrunchyDuck  [author] 11 Sep, 2018 @ 7:09am 
Of course. I'll look in to making it.
Honestly, I don't even use this mod, but that does sound like the kind I'd use :p
mahottama 11 Sep, 2018 @ 5:20am 
I agree with Enlonwhite. Ate with a table should be a bonus for the mood.
Enlonwhite 11 Sep, 2018 @ 1:58am 
and still have the old mood pen removed (aka this mod)
Enlonwhite 11 Sep, 2018 @ 1:57am 
Actually could your make a mod that Rewards you for building/having tables, aka +3 to mood for Ate with a table?