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De Lisle carbine

I actually just read something that claimed he was born in South Africa and then "returned" to Britain. Still haven't come across any sources that actually said anything about his heritage, but with a surname like "De Lisle" his family is probably originally from France.

You're right, but if you look closer into the life of Godfray , he was french , but used to live in England .

And yeah , that was most used by British commandos because the real name is ''De Lisle Commando Carbine'' .

And yeah, 500 were ordered , you're right too . but I saw some pictures of FFL after Operation Overlord , 2 guys on 4 were holding De Lisle carbines . But only a few guys used it , and FFL prefered FP45 Liberator and dropped Welrod's .

About the caliber, yes it was .22 LR , I guess it was not even able to kill a fly XD .

Actually now I think of it, I'm not sure if it actually was a .22 LR, but it was a .22 cartridge, so I assume it was a .22 LR. Don't take me up on that though.

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It was mostly used by British Commando's during pre-D-Day raids on the European mainland, often to silently dispose of sentries. After the invasion of Normandy it was barely used again. I'm sure a few members of Free France got their hands on some of them, but it was mainly used by British Commando forces.


What you said about the produced sound is true though, if I remember correctly the original recording of the .45 ACP version produced 85.5 dB, which was 4 dB less than a suppressed Sten.

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Eh, although I do appreciate your intrest in the weapon, your information isn't 100% correct.

The De Lisle Carbine was designed by William De Lisle, it was his pet-project. (who as far as I know was a Brit, couldn't find any information about his heritage, but he did live there, so chances are that he was British, although his surname might suggest otherwise). It was built from the ground up to be a suppressed weapon for silent assassinations, originally firing a .22 LR. In 1943 Combined Operations HQ showed interest in the weapon, but requested it to be chambered in 9mm as they had seen the effectiveness of the cartridge in the Sten SMG. De Lisle didn't like the 9mm cartridge as it was harder to suppress and instead built a .45 ACP version that used M1911 magazines. CO HQ liked the improvement (as it had greater penetration and was quieter than the 9mm) and ordered 500 to be build for use in special operations (but only 130 were ever produced).

Actually, it uses M1911 Colt magazines, that's why they designed it : It was able to use a low-price ammo that you could pick up easily after Operation Overlord (Volkssturm , FFL , these forces were using .45 ACP in a lot of their weapons , especially the M42 United Defence . And De Lisle was French ;D

Oh and also , if you want to be more precise, I remember that in a museum , someone told me the De Lisle carbine produces around 80-90 dB / shot, which is exceptionnal , maybe the sole weapon quiet like that .

But only 130 were produced because after D-Day, this carbine became useless for Free France Forces .

Glad to see that someone made this weapon ;D