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Progress based respawn health

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By default players respawn with 50 or 100 hp in the next chapter if they are dead in previous one. This addon makes the respawn health based on the highest progress made in the given chapter by the player (start saferoom = 0% progress, end saferoom = 100% progress). Affects only coop, realism or any mutations derived from those modes. Suicidal behaviour at the end of chapters with a goal of respawning with 50 or 100 green hp is useless with these respawn health rules.

If survivor who reached 90% of the map or higher died, they will respawn in black and white state and 30 temporary hp

if between 76% to 89% they will respawn with 30 temporary hp and their revival state at time of death
(for example if witch kills you at 80% and you weren't revived from incap before, then you will respawn with 30 temporary hp and still can go down twice)

if between 51% to 75% the progress will be mapped to be between [48 permanent hp | 2 temp hp] and [1 perm hp | 49 temp hp]

health = 50 - 50.0 * ((progress - 50) / 25.0) temp = 50 - health;

examples
death at 51% means respawn 48 perm hp and 2 temp hp
death at 60% means respawn 30 perm hp and 20 temp hp
death at 75% means respawn 1 perm hp and 49 temp hp

if below 50% the respawn hp will be 100 - progress
i.e death at 10% means you respawn with 100 - 10 = 90 perm hp

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4 Jun @ 2:23pm

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Moon 28 Jun @ 6:03am

Anyways, I'll stop yapping

Moon 28 Jun @ 5:58am

And I especially don't like how because players respawn in closets so quickly with essentially nothing limiting it, the defib is rendered useless most of the time in non-realism campaign since you may as well just wait for the respawn closet because it's usually much easier and takes less effort with the same results. I never liked how the game was designed in that way.

Moon 28 Jun @ 5:50am

I also don't like how L4D2 brought the respawn closet mechanic from L4D1, and you'd think the devs would've gone away with it once the defib was added. Like I can understand it from L4D1's point of view, since L4D was basically a beta to test the game's main concept and not worry about smaller thing, so it serves as an alternative so that players don't have to stay dead the whole map when there were no defibs in the game. But it's really kind of bizzare that they decided to add both, and the more you think about it you realize just how goofy it is that one moment they're dead and the next moment their body has teleported somewhere else further in the map XD

Moon 28 Jun @ 5:37am

Smart idea -- I've been recently trying to think of ways that the game could be designed to incentivize players to make it to the saferoom alive, since that's basically the entire point of campaign. I never liked how way it is now makes dying preferrable if you have low HP so that you respawn with perma hp instead of low temp hp, since the goal should be surviving as much as possible, so you shouldn't be put at a disadvantage from doing so. Best idea I could come up with is like if you die and respawn in saferoom, it's as if you were just revived from incap, but if you make it you get some kind of health bonus. But I like this idea a lot more

Zaden 12 Jun @ 6:28pm

THIS IS SO COOL!

mournful cameraderie12 5 Jun @ 11:21am

cool

Nescius [author] 5 Jun @ 9:38am

I am not thinking of it as punishment though but rather just different rules for respawn health logic and that's why I don't really want to differentiate in any way how the survivors have died. It is meant to increase the difficulty a little this way

kurochama 5 Jun @ 9:09am

I wonder if you can make certain exceptions, like this:
1. Death by other survivors or suicide will follow the default rules.
2. But if survivors die during play or near the end of saferoom by common/ special infected/ tank/ witch, the penalty would be less severe than getting killed by other survivor or suicide.

Sometimes people got unlucky to survive long enough just to die close enough to saferoom during panic events or getting captured by SI. So, giving them the default penalty would look unfair for the hardworking survivors. So if there are some exceptional rules for survivors who die because of zombies, that would be better & more balanced for those who put everything to survive but die in the end, I think.

Morsch 4 Jun @ 7:27pm

Fair enough, i do understand your point, it is really hard to get any pub player to stay spectating either way.

Henrietta 4 Jun @ 6:43pm

I just politely but firmly ask the people who do this to leave.

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