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Vassals Nerfed

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A balance mod which makes it harder to acquire and maintain vassals.

v 0.4.0

I love the vassal system from Overlord, but it became too easy to aquire them and hold them in check. Vassals should feel more rewarding but also more egoistic in their goals. I personally think there is not much to change, just make things a little bit harder.

  • Shared Destiny, Feudal Society and Franchising does only reduce and not remove penalties from having more subjects.
  • Higher Diplomatic penalties for vassalisation of AI, especially higher distance modifier.
  • Negotiations are more expensive and and AI is less likely to approve (higher penalties).
  • Vassals are more likely to pledge secret fealty and betraying you.
  • Each Vassal gives + 2.5% Empire Size penalty.
  • Tributaries give + 1.5% Empire Size Penalty
  • Subsidiares give + 1.0% Empire Size Penalty
  • Opinion modifers for loyalty are nerfed.

This mod is in it's early stages so feeback is Welcome!

Code can be found >>here<<[github.com]

Disclaimer: I borrowed some of the variable defines from StarNet AI. I can highly recommend that mod, check it out too!
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Terramaris 8 Oct, 2023 @ 12:46pm 
I am so happy I found your mod. I just played a FP game with 10 AIs, and half the game ended up under the vassalship of just one empire. It was silly.... your mod looks like just the thing to prevent such nonsense from happening.
Mal'Dun  [author] 16 Sep, 2023 @ 12:33pm 
Mod should just work with the new 3.9. Patch. I updated the version number
PurplPanda 14 Sep, 2023 @ 1:42pm 
Solid mod. Might wanna try having subjects bargain for better terms upon hitting certain milestones, or for megacorps within a specific strength group to try to ask for compensation or swear fealty to another overlord, as that'd be pretty great for rp.
Archemyre 19 Aug, 2023 @ 8:07pm 
Thank you so much for this, been looking for a mod like this for ages. Noone should be able to just casually remove the independence from a nation half the galaxy away just because they have 3x the fleet power.
Mal'Dun  [author] 16 Aug, 2023 @ 9:30am 
"Major Update" ... Empire Size penalites are adjusted to Vassal type. Tributaries and Subsidiaries give less empire penalty, to give them more meaning.
Mal'Dun  [author] 15 Aug, 2023 @ 8:18am 
Small update with fine tuned parameters.

Attention: The next version will contain a new penalizing system for Vassals where Tributaries and Subsidiaries will get less Empire Size Penalty. But this will break saves, so be warned. I will upload it the upcoming days.
Mal'Dun  [author] 2 Aug, 2023 @ 2:29pm 
After more play testing I decided to drastically nerf the opinion modifier. One can still hold too much vassals and milk them. I tried a little bit and now opinion modifier is a quarter lower. This should allow to get resources from your Vassals but one can not milk them brainlessly.

More feedback is welcome! It's hard to test alone ...
Mal'Dun  [author] 31 Jul, 2023 @ 3:10pm 
Added missing localisation for Empire Size Penalty
Mal'Dun  [author] 30 Jul, 2023 @ 11:01am 
Small update: Now each Vassal gives +2.5% Empire Size penalty. Thx to the guys from r/Stellaris for the input!
Mal'Dun  [author] 29 Jul, 2023 @ 9:14am 
@NOEL357 I did not test it, but I think it should be. My mod just re-adjusts some defines and changes one effect on the Shared Destiny Ascension Perk and the related civics. So I see no reason why it should not work.