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Saph's Twin Europes (TSL)
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Mod: Base Game, Rise and Fall, Gathering Storm, Map Packs
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Saph's Twin Europes (TSL)

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Description
A TSL map of Europe & its mirror image (All sizes!)

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Saph's Twin Europes (TSL)
If you like playing on a map of Europe, this map has double the fun!

Design Features
  • True Starting Locations:
    25 official civs, 15 city states and 9 natural wonders are placed at their real world locations. (An additional 9 natural wonders are placed in Mirror Europe.)

  • Even distribution:
    There is a file called "Map-EvenDistribution.xml" within the mod "Map" folder, which you can use to replace the default "Map.xml" for an even distribution of official civs and city states across Twin Europes. Recommended for those who don't play with custom civs. See screenshot for an illustration.

  • Support for custom civs & city states:
    True start locations (TSL) are included for 39 custom civs/leaders and 15 custom city states. (If you would like any other modded civs to be added, please leave a comment!)

  • Toggleable navigable rivers:
    The Strait of Bosphorus, and the rivers Rhine, Danube, and Dnipro can be individually turned from normal rivers to coastal tiles during set-up, allowing naval units to traverse deeper into land while creating obstacles for land units.

  • Choke points:
    In addition to the presence of navigable rivers, choke points are also created by careful placement of mountain tiles on land, and island tiles at sea. Plan your tactical maneuvers carefully!

  • Accurate rivers:
    Hundreds of rivers and tributaries are placed according to their real life locations (as accurately as it can be done on a hex grid).

  • Accurate terrains:
    Mountains and hills are placed based on real elevation data[maps-for-free.com], and grass/plains/desert are placed based on USDA soil quality data[www.nrcs.usda.gov].

  • Map generated floodplains:
    This YnAMP-based map has map-generated river floodplains, so dam construction and flooding events are possible.

Details
Map size: Full map is 106x66 Huge. 10 sections of the map are available as smaller maps (with sizes from Duel to Large).

Required Mod: Gedemon's Yet (not) Another Maps Pack

Recommended Mods:
  • Religion Expanded: This adds enough beliefs to vanilla's 20 so that you won't get locked if you are playing with more than 20 civs but haven't chosen a belief.
  • Prismatic - Color and Jersey Overhaul: This adds enough jersey colors so that you can play with more than 20 civs in one game. Otherwise some civs will get transparent colors.

Official civs with TSL

Vanilla
  • Arabia
  • Egypt
  • England
  • France
  • Germany
  • Greece
  • Macedon
  • Norway
  • Poland
  • Rome
  • Russia
  • Scythia
  • Spain

Rise and Fall
  • Netherlands
  • Georgia
  • Scotland
  • Mongolia

Gathering Storm
  • England/France: Eleanor (starts at Poitiers)
  • Hungary
  • Ottoman
  • Phoenicia
  • Sweden

New Frontier Pass
  • Babylon
  • Byzantium
  • Gaul
  • Portugal

Official city states with TSL
Amsterdam (if without R&F), Venice, Brussels, Carthage (if without GS), Geneva, Hattusa, Jerusalem, Preslav, Stockholm (if without GS), Valletta, Vilnius, Armagh, Granada, Bologna, Cardiff, Fez, Vatican City, Wolin

Custom Civs & City States
39 custom civs/leaders and 15 custom city states have TSL on this map. See the complete collection for a list.

Game Set-up
To play with advanced YnAMP settings, you need to
  1. Have this mod and Yet (not) Another Map Pack installed and enabled ingame
  2. Single Player --> Create Game --> Load Database (next to the BACK button) and wait for the game to load
  3. Once loaded, you will be back to the main menu
  4. Single Player --> Create Game (You should see a tick next to CREATE GAME at the top.) --> Choose Map Type --> Saph's Twin Europes (TSL) --> Advanced Setup

Recommended Settings
  1. Turn on Only Civilizations/City States with TSL (or Turn off if you want to play with custom city states)
  2. Adjust the number of civs, city states & religions in the game to your liking.
  3. Manually pick the civs to play as/against or leave them random.
  4. Map Section: Choose the map section that you want to play among the 11 available.
  5. Select Natural Wonders: Leave it at Everything / Uncheck the ones that you don't want to appear
  6. Coastal Lowland: Choose Map Generator for random placement / Matching flatlands for more dramatic flooding / Empty for no lowlands
  7. Rivers Flooding: Choose Map Generator / Empty for no floodplains & flooding (and hence no dams)
  8. Resource Quantity: Your own preference (Resources are map-generated; this map does not contain pre-placed resources.)
  9. Civilization Placement: Choose True Starting Locations for accurate historical placement / Map Generator for random placement
  10. Enforce TSL: AI if you don't want the AI to stray from their TSLs
  11. Use Leaders TSL when available & Use Alternative TSL if required and available: On
  12. Allow random placement for civs without TSL: Off (You can turn it on if you want random placement for civs not in the list above)
  13. Enable World Wrap: Enable if you want to sail west from Portugal to reach Mirror Portugal.
  14. Navigable Bosphorus: Enable to connect the Black Sea with the Mediterranean with a water tile.
  15. Navigable Rivers: Check the rivers that you want to turn into coastal tiles for naval units.
  16. Real City Naming: On (This is only for the capitals for several civs which do not start at their actual real life capitals e.g. Norway at Oslo on the Large map)
  17. No Duplicate Civilizations: Off, if you want to have, for example, both Eleanor and Victoria, or both Pericles and Gorgo, in one game at the same time.

Special Thanks
This map is made possible by Gedemon's YnAMP & Zobtzler's YnABMC.
28 Comments
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bozicpredrag7 15 Feb, 2024 @ 12:53am 
i dont credit cards sorry
Skylar Saphyr  [author] 15 Feb, 2024 @ 12:24am 
@bozicpredrag7 You wanna pay me to do it? Otherwise just play my Atlantic map
bozicpredrag7 14 Feb, 2024 @ 11:17pm 
please make one map with europe and a little bit of america like new york, tampa, washington only
Cleveland Bean Steemer 3 Apr, 2023 @ 11:17am 
Is there a way to get barbarian clans mode to work with your TSL maps? When they turn into city states they become 'ghost' city states that you can interact with
Skylar Saphyr  [author] 6 Feb, 2023 @ 8:03pm 
@Talon 23J: That is similar to my experience as well. I don't think it's a problem of Got Lakes either. It's just since the Leader Pass the game can't seem to handle as many mods as before.
Talon 23J 6 Feb, 2023 @ 2:20pm 
@Skylar Saphyr: Ok. My assumption there was something between those mods and your mods. I had not added a mod since October. For giggles I went back and looked at the mods I am subscribed to. I am not sure how it is related. Got Lakes had an update on 28 January which is 5 days after I subscribed to yours. I disabled Got Lakes and enabled yours with no issue.
Skylar Saphyr  [author] 29 Jan, 2023 @ 6:17pm 
@Talon 23J: They work for me though. AFAIK the issue is not related to particular mods but a combination. I think if you disable some other mods (especially those resource-heavy ones) but leave YnAMP (and this map) on, the issue may resolve itself.
Talon 23J 29 Jan, 2023 @ 5:35pm 
FYI. Quick Deals and Extended Policy Cards do not work with this mod (and Yet (not) Another Map pack). I did not even select mod to use. I disabled the two mods and Quick Deals and Extended Policy cards was back.
Skylar Saphyr  [author] 26 May, 2022 @ 8:32am 
@jebedi: Yes
jebedi 19 May, 2022 @ 9:20am 
will you one day do a americas map?