Total War: WARHAMMER II

Total War: WARHAMMER II

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Pierce's Better Sieges

Description
Better Sieges incorporates several changes in both the campaign and battle to make sieges more dynamic, exciting, and more fun. I mean, if you're into that sort of thing.

Summary
  • Towers have less range at lower levels, wider firing arcs, and less HP.
  • Walls and Gates have more HP.
  • Siege Equipment (Rams/Siege Towers) build much faster and are more useful.
  • More spells and units on walls! ratling guns! yes-yes
  • Now you can win by capturing the town plaza, but is harder to do so.
  • ...and more!






All towers' firing arcs are increased to 180 degrees, making them much more deadly and important to capture or destroy. However, their range has been substantially decreased at the lower levels. This means you can siege them from safety if you bring artillery without resorting to "cheese" strats. Even the Lvl 3 towers can be outranged by the best artillery units. However, the Lvl 4 towers will match or outrange all units in the game. As it says in the Bible, God fights on the side with the heaviest artillery.

("Arrows" is my catch-all term for projectiles that vary by race, including arrows, muskets, ballista, and even bones. "Artillery" is a similar catch-all term.)



Although Tower HP is decreased, Gates and Walls are much more durable. Gate HP has been increased by 2.5x, and Walls by 2x. Meanwhile, battering rams do 2.75x the damage. This means monsters will no longer be destroying the gate before your infantry even arrive at the doorstep, but can still do the job over time. Unequipped infantry will be futile against the gate alone. Battering rams now are one of the best ways to force open a gate.



Battering Rams and Siege Towers now build much faster and the manpower pool to build them has been increased. Siege weapons are much more useful in battle now than before.

In addition to the battering ram's increased damage (x2.75), both the ram and the siege tower move & turn faster.

Climbing speed has also been reduced by 40%, making siege towers much more important! Especially when your generals remember that uncovered troops on ladders can still be shot by towers...





Yes!
The full list of units and spells:
  • Skaven: Ratling Guns, Warplock Jezzails, Warpfire Throwers
  • Norsca: Skin-wolves (all)
  • Vampire Coast: Deck Gunners
  • Vampire Counts: Invocation of Nehek [spell]
  • Greenskins: Spider Hatchlings
  • Wood Elves: Orion, Giant Spiders
  • (new!) Beastmen: Minotaurs (all), Taurox, Doombull, Gorebull
Note: Most units are missing climbing animations. Don't look too closely. ;) This is also why I couldn't add other units without breaking immersion. The game won't allow artillery on walls.



Ever hated how capturing the town plaza was basically a worthless endeavor?

Normally, capturing the keep took 60 seconds, and then you'd have to wait another 200 seconds for the "Defender Victory Points" to empty before you finally won, taking over 4 minutes! By that time the enemy had already routed!

In this mod: Defender Victory Points are virtually eliminated (set to 5). Time to capture the keep has been changed to 85 seconds. For the defender: there's no chance to recapture it if you lose it. For the attacker: capturing the keep is now a viable strategy. Enemy troops may still be fighting on the walls when the church bells crumble and the call to abandon all hope rings out.

The points threshold to capture the flag has been buffed to prevent cheesing with a single zombie summon or whatever.



○ Siege holdout time is reduced by 3 turns before attrition kicks in. Besieged units suffering attrition are also eliminated 1 turn earlier.
How vanilla besieged attrition works: Once it kicks in, trapped units lose 50% of their current HP every turn. In vanilla, they eventually die when they get to 2%. (Now 4%)

○ Units belonging to an AI garrison (not an army) get a 100% ammunition buff, 20% missile ward, 10% magic ward, and +15 Leadership. This represents their home advantage. This is applied only when you attack the AI -- humans don't need the help.

○ (new!) Bloated Corpses destroy walls!

○ Miners & Warp-Grinders do increased damage to buildings.

○ (new!) Vaul's Hammer cooldown reduced to 2 seconds.

○ (new!) The major settlement defense Wall bldg chain starts at Tier 2 for ALL races.

○ As a whole these changes give a combat advantage to the defender and a campaign advantage to the attacker. In particular, towers rack up a lot more kills. So I doubled the lethality of towers in the autoresolver.

○ Battering rams and siege towers autoresolver power is reduced by 20% to compensate for the number the attacker can build quickly. They have a unit cap of 4 each (4x2 for towers), too.

○ Lastly, the Damage Walls hero action has base success chance of 40% (down from 60%), since it's much more impactful than before. The chance of critical failure is also 20% less likely in order to compensate for the nerf. Lord Kroak's unique Damage Walls action is unchanged.

Recommended Mods

⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀Reporting For Duty
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A companion mod designed for Better Sieges. This collaboration from John Austin and me improves garrisons, awards units for military buildings and landmarks, and gives spells and abilities to heroes. Save-game friendly.

⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀GCCM
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The AI struggles on a few of these custom maps, but they're still too beautiful for me not to recommend. If you're tired of all the siege maps feeling the same, you need GCCM!


Preference: No Walls for Minor Settlements


Overhauls

The End Times

Radious - compatible!

CTT - compatible, except no additional units on walls by Cataph's request.

SFO

Last Words

Save game friendly. This mod can be both added and removed from your campaign without issues. All changes take place immediately.

Credit to Jadawin for his script and several ideas.

If you'd like to show thanks, consider donating to your local food bank or the Red Cross[www.redcross.org]. Thanks everyone. Happy sieging! 😊

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piercebuster  [author] 15 Dec, 2023 @ 4:26pm 
@Arma2

Thank you for the feedback.
You make a good point, which is why the power of towers in the autoresolver was already doubled.
Unfortunately, if I make the autoresolver too severe, then the AI will have too much difficulty expanding in the early game, meaning that the human player will have less peer rivals as you progress in the game. As the human player, you get to play out your fights, but the AI off your screen has to fight and expand everything with the autoresolver.
Mick 14 Dec, 2023 @ 3:37pm 
The autoresolve power for the towers is way, way too low. Might as well quintuple it from what it is right now to reflect how OP they are in-game. The third tower upgrade for skaven defenses trivializes all siege defenses to the point of losing *literally* 0 units and just wiping full stacks after destroying the max amount of siege towers the AI can deploy.
Autumnchain 24 Nov, 2023 @ 2:49pm 
All the siege reworks must be making the prospect of porting these mods (as well as Reporting for Duty) to TWW3 quite difficult.
piercebuster  [author] 27 Sep, 2023 @ 9:19pm 
@Autumnchain Probably, but not soon. I haven't played the game yet. I expect it would need some balancing changes and be more than just a port.
Autumnchain 27 Sep, 2023 @ 8:41pm 
Will you ever release this for TWW3?
LiQuiDaToR 27 Jul, 2023 @ 6:51am 
Bet this has already been asked a couple of times, but have you considered breaking up this siege overhaul into separate sub-mods? To make it possible for the user to better adjust the experience to their preference, e.g. picking just some changes they like (or conversely dropping a change they don't vibe with). Even if you only balanced them for use within the whole collection.
piercebuster  [author] 1 Jul, 2023 @ 12:02pm 
@Valour
You asked why the tower firing speed increases, decreases, then increases again. But if you measure it in terms of damage per second, it consistently goes up with each level.

Due to how the game is coded, all units that can climb walls will create ladders to climb them at the wall.
V 1 Jul, 2023 @ 11:56am 
Sorry I still don't understand the Fire Speed values what they actually mean. What do you mean by DPS for the fire speed?

climbing_ladder_speed_modifier and climbing_walls_speed_modifier

Do some units climb walls without ladder?
piercebuster  [author] 25 Jun, 2023 @ 9:33pm 
@Valour
Damage per second.
V 24 Jun, 2023 @ 5:41am 
The fire speed given above for the towers don't really make sense, it definitely doesn't take towers ~20s to fire one shot.

Also why does the number increase then decrease then increase...