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Hellenic Reforms

Description
This is a small mod that makes Hellenic factions a little more historical. I never understood why Romans have reforms that allow to retrain units but the Greeks don't. Now, you should only find (hoplon bearing) hoplites in the early game, while in the mid and late game the thureos and thorax reforms should kick in. You (and the AI) can keep the units that have accumulated experience while preventing roster bloating.

Unit Changes :
- All Hellenic factions now have Thureos Hoplites and Thorax Swords
- Gave Thorax Hoplites to minor Greek factions/Sparta
- Gave Thorax Pikes and Sarissa Cav to Epirus
- UPDATE 19/04 : Gave Thorax Swords, Thorax Hoplites, Gallo-Thracian warriors, and Thureos Spears to the Odryssian Kingdom to round up their really poor roster, with a unique thracian reskin.

Reform Changes
- Retrain Hoplites to Thureos Hoplites /// Perioikoi Hoplites /// Persian Hoplites to Thureos Hoplites (Hellenisation tech)
- Retrain Light Hoplites to Thureos Spears (Hellenisation tech)
- Retrain Thureos Hoplites / Spartan Hoplites to Thorax Hoplites (Remuneration Reforms tech)
- Retrain Pikes to Thorax Pikes (Hellenisation tech)
- Retrain Sarissa Cav to Thessalian Cav (Hellenisation tech)

Light Infantry
- Buffed Agrianian Axemen, Light Peltasts, Periokoi Peltasts, and Picked Peltasts
Agrianian Axemen were the commandos of Alexander The Great, but in the game their just another skirmisher unit. So i buffed their melee abilities to better reflect that role. The in-game evolution from Peltast to Light Peltasts didn't bring anything worthwhile, so i buffed them to be better at melee and become sort of a light Thureos Sword unit. Same for Perioikoi Peltasts. Picked Peltasts are also buffed to relfect their Elite Status. Bear in mind that they will not take on a unit of heavy infantry up front and survive, and they should be used to scout and flank.




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36 Comments
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SugarDaddy 27 Mar, 2023 @ 7:58am 
Thureos speas dissappeared as garnison unit. Didnt play for long to get techs done ill check.
Hopefully garisson will appear lately.
Ma-Wan  [author] 2 Dec, 2022 @ 9:42am 
Hello guys and gals,
First of all, I'm quite surprised and happy that people are still using my mod. I'm sorry to say that I'm no longer active in the rtw 2 modding community due to leaving uni and starting work.
If anybody wants to update and fix the mod, please do ! Honestly it's not that hard, you just need PFM and some basic understanding on how the tables work, quite intuitive in my opinion.
- Concerning Cimmeria and Colchis, must have been a problem in the tech tree and couldn't get them in
- Concerning merc hoplites, tried and failed.
Sanakan 26 Nov, 2022 @ 7:22pm 
Hey Ma-Wan, if you ever update your great mod, please check on the Pergamon-hoplites issue.
Also, is it possible to remove mercenary hoplites after sometime in-game? Even if mercs are kinda hard coded on the startpos
Eversor 30 Jan, 2022 @ 12:43am 
Ist this mod dead or can we expect further fixes? There is still the problem that you can't recruit hoplites as Pergamon, after researching hellenisation...they just disappear.
Aslan Ponto 20 Apr, 2021 @ 11:10am 
It doesn´t add Thorax Swords for Cimmeria nor Colchis.
Ma-Wan  [author] 11 Aug, 2020 @ 6:24am 
@LoneEagle that's a bit weird since my test campaign was with Epirus and everything was fine... Anyways I'm taking a break from modding during the summer, but I'll take a look into it :)
Ps : I'm glad you enjoy the agrianian axemen buff !
LoneEagle 11 Aug, 2020 @ 3:46am 
I want to add to @Drenghi 's comment that I have the same problem with Epirus, I upgraded my hoplites to thureos hoplites but there isn't anyway for me to recruit any more kind of hoplites as Eprius. I don't know if it's the same as other factions I just thought it was important to bring it to your attention.

I really enjoy the mod especially the agriarian axemen buff since I use them all the time, I hope you have some more time in the future to fix this problem.

Thanks
Drenghi 2 Jul, 2020 @ 5:02am 
Oh that’s a pity, I hope you can fix it in the future, I’d really like to play a proper campaign with this mod on! Cheers!
Ma-Wan  [author] 2 Jul, 2020 @ 3:10am 
Thanks ! Yup this seems to be a problem but a didn't have the time to fix it
Drenghi 2 Jul, 2020 @ 2:53am 
First of all, I like the idea of the mod very much, good work!

Sadly I have a problem with it: I'm not able to recruit the thureos hoplites as Pergamon after the hellenisation research; I can upgrade the hoplites units in my armies but I can't recruit that kind of unit anymore (meaning, neither the old hoplites, nor the newer thureos hoplites).