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Varangian Trade Routes

После переустановки игры, перестал работать. Может была у кого такая проблема?

We don't know though did the hämäläiset and suomalaiset have different tribal organization, but their land and tribal names are different, although both come from the same root word.
About the Chud, we don't know if they were ever an actual tribe. If they were, they have totally disappeared. Probably was a common name the Slavs used of (some) Finnic tribes.
The land of the Jem is Häme in Finnish, the land of the Sum is Suomi in Finnish. So there is some likeness in the Slavic names they used in the Primary Chronicles. But Chud doesn't remind any known tribe. The "Chuds" has been translated into Finnish as "tsuudit" and is used when referred to this "lost tribe".

The Jem are the hämäläiset (Tavastians in English) tribe, the biggest Finnish tribe and are definately the main ancestors of modern Finns. The south-west coast tribe suomalaiset (Finns) were called as "Sum" in the Novgorod Primary Chronicles. It's confusing because the modern country's name comes from this south-west corner of the land. But hämäläiset is still living tribal name and the historical province (Tavastland in English) covered earlier almost all the inhabited Finland (modern Tavastland province is smaller) except the south-west coast. It was the hämäläiset who inhabited Karelia 600 AD and both Karelians (karjalaiset) and Savolax (savolaiset) tribes are descendants of the hämäläiset tribe. It was the fusion of the hämäläiset tribe and Vepsians who lived in Aldeigjuborg (Staraya Ladoga). And it was the hämäläiset who warred against Novgorod.

@retrobarbaari, the Fins at the time of the Primary Chronicles were several Finnic tribes, and some of them were part of the initial tribal confederation, for instance the Chud and the Veps. One very interesting question is, whether those tribes called "Jam" at the time later became the founders of modern day Finland (https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%A4%C3%A4mit) .

@Drax70, HIP Compatibility, I have to pass on that one, I only ever play vanilla, and doesn't HIP already have trade routes all over the map?

Here's what I think of the Rus creation myth in the Primary Chronicles. Maybe the names of the establishers of the empire are real, maybe the writer made them up, but if real, during the centuries they had become unrecognizable. The writer considers the names must be foreign. And writes them down as he thinks they should be. He can't say which people they were, so he leaves that out. If he knew, it would be there

I just read that when Novgorodian Primary Chronicles listed Varangians (foreigners), the list was: The Rus, the Svie (Swear), the Gote (Geats), the Angles (Englishmen) and the Urmane (Norwegians). The Geats are the people of Götaland, the Southern Sweden, Svear the people of Central Sweden, northern Sweden didn't have Norse tribes. So who are missing? Many, for example:the Danes, the Gothlanders, the Saxons and the Frisians of the Germanic peoples. The Balts, the Finns and the Estonians. Maybe the Balts, Estonians and Finns weren't counted as foreigners: many of the tribes in Russia spoke a Finnic language.
Antinormannists make a point that even Sagas don't mention people with name like Rus, nor does any historian names them among Scandinavian peoples. The Novgorod Chronicles has this creation myth of the Rus empire, and name the foreign establishers. And then we have a problem when the Rus are listed as foreigners.

Those treaties between the Rus and Byzantium was made for the Rus ruler Oleg, a Slavic name. Antinormannists make a point that while SOME of the treaty signators have Scandinavian names, others were not. Who signed the document, doesn't mean THEY were actual Rus, they represented the Rus. Meaning they were varangians, foreign employed people by the trade outposts. Princes have always employed foreigners, for the obvious reasons that they have connections the local people do not. I find that very reasonable point.

Would you please consider a HIP compatibility version?!! That would be awesome!

Thanks!

The Rus-Byzantine Treaties of 907 and 911, you can read about them here:
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rus%27%E2%80%93Byzantine_Treaty_(907)
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rus%27%E2%80%93Byzantine_Treaty_(911)