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Han Chinese title localization mod:
All tiers of noble, burgher and viceroy titles are renamed to traditional chinese titles roughly conresponding to similar positions and administrative divisions in Tang government. Iron man compatible. Enjoy!
Since chinese queen-consorts and queen-regnant have different styles and titles but the game doesnt distinguish one between the other, I used the consorts' title and assume Han ruler would always use agnatic succession. If you dont, you might find it a bit immersion-breaking.


Nov 23 update: Khitan culture titles added. But most things related to khitan/liao ingame is still wrong since correcting them requires more than localization modding, and this mod would stay iron-man friendly.
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fatpancake23 15 Mar, 2022 @ 6:53pm 
perfect for the Heavenly Emperor, for his governors deserve better titles than a boring old "viceroy" and "minor viceroy" titles
superninja76 13 Nov, 2018 @ 11:09pm 
I think Tianzi would be better than huangdi. After all, the emperor is, first and foremost, the son of heaven, no?
Prozn856 9 Dec, 2017 @ 5:28pm 
Is this compatible with CK2+?
Klinker1234 7 Dec, 2017 @ 7:23am 
Playing as a Khitan with this mod, I noticed that my viceroy vassals realms are called Khanate rather than Circuit. For instance a viceroy's realm show up as Khotan Khanate (Circuit of Khotan). I hope its fixable. Especially since a Khitan viceroy's title is Warden rather than Khan. Other than that great mod. Makes play chinese/khitan much more enjoyable imo.
alphonsechristophe 2 Dec, 2017 @ 3:04am 
I agree with using Dudu rather than Grand Jiedushi.
flyinghamster 28 Nov, 2017 @ 11:45pm 
@Jason Young / Makes sense indeed....
Jason Young  [author] 28 Nov, 2017 @ 11:37pm 
@adrewlau0923 Junshi 军使 is the Tang version of Song era Zhijun知军, they only became county-level military adm district after Tang but still I used it because there arent many options. Jianshi is an invention based on Song Zhijian知监 that I might consider replacing.
@hamster113 Problem with Jiedushi is that ingame the Guiyi Jiedushi in 867 was made a Duke, not a King. and this mod is designed to be ironman-friendly, so I cant change map history. I'm considering using 都督 for King-tier viceroy, since the early-Tang Dudus' districts are larger than late-Tang Jiedushis'.
flyinghamster 28 Nov, 2017 @ 12:20pm 
Also you can consider using "都督" which is lower tier than "都護". How about this? "節度使" -> "都督" -> "都護"
flyinghamster 28 Nov, 2017 @ 12:11pm 
There is some stuff that might need change. Jiedushi should be a title for King-Tier Fuedal Viceroy. For Duch-Tier there should be better ttitle name. Also, Protector General of Western Protectorate should has title name of "都護" not sure its pronouication in Mordern Mandarin though. Also notice that Mordern Korea's Chinese icon prononciation is qutie simillar to ancient Chinese.
flyinghamster 28 Nov, 2017 @ 12:07pm 
@adrewlau0923 Jiedushi in China existed untill fall of Song Dynasty at North of China.