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Greetings from Turkey :)
- Some ♥♥♥♥♥♥
1. Seatbelt is mispelled in the quotes section
2. Another great quote: "Religion is the opium of the masses" -Karl Marx (While Marx wasn't a genius, this quote speaks a lot of truth.)
The word gnostic has to do with truth and whoever claims to be gnostic has the truth and can under no circumstances can ever be (proven) wrong.
The word agnostic has to do with truth and whoever claims to be agnostic simply holds the position that they could always be wrong as it's impossible to be 100% certain.
It just gets on my nerves when people can't seem to wrap their heads around simple definitions.
This ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ needs to be thrown into a 8x8 cell with a rainbow of lights installed in it. Then, all at once, given 300 hits of LSD, and set a computer to play crazy ass music and strobe the lights till an epileptic seizure happens. Repeat as needed till dead.
Join me at the Reason Rally
so to reiterate here are the combinations
agnostic atheist = not sure but do not believe in a deity
gnostic atheist = know there is no deity
agnostic theist = not sure but do believe in a deity
gnostic theist = know there is a god
agnosticism and atheism address different issues. a/theism deals solely with belief. a/gnosticism deals solely with knowledge.
a gnostic theist believes he KNOWS there is a god. an agnostic atheist believes there is no god BUT DOESNT CLAIM TO HAVE ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY.
You can be both Agnostic and Atheist, as you can be both Agnostic and religious. The word "Agnostic" means a lack of knowledge; it's a metaphysical position, stating that something can't be known, and as such is a statement of knowledge. The word Atheism, means a lack of a belief in a deity, and as such is a statement regarding belief, or the lack thereof. As the two words relate to two different things (e.g knowledge and belief) they are compatible. So I can be an atheist, in that I don't believe in a God, yet also agnostic in that I don't deny the possibility of a God existing, which is exactly my position on the matter.
This gives you a chance to persuade a fence sitter to be atheist.
Oh and I'm an atheist by the way, I just think this group is stupid and so are the people that join it.