I also agree with some previous comments that the additional tweaks should probably be moved to a separate mod due to compatibility concerns. Great mod though! Exactly the sort of thing I've been looking to use for evil empires in my galaxy.

It would be cool to see some compatibility between this and Gigastructural engineering. Otherwise this is a cool idea, just wish it was moved to being and origin type also, incase if people don't want to lose a civic slot.

... I just got what this mod refer to now, and I have to say, I feel HATRED

It doesnt work?

I agree with @sparble in moving the tweaks to a separate mod, I like the idea for this one but with long modlists tweaks need to be considered a bit more carefully for compatibility

The only thing this mod is missing is the appearance of the classic Torment Nexus

How does it effect ecumonopolis?

I highly recommend moving the other tweaks to a separate mod as this could conflict with other mods that change stuff like Apocalyptic Origin, preferences and habitabilities, or make a separate mod that includes just this new civic + mechanics behind it.

i have no gyatt and i must rizz

@Sparble This should be compatible with most things. The reason I did -1000 opinion instead of disabling diplo is because disabling diplo would require overwriting all the diplomacy actions, which is stupid and they should change how diplo does genocidal checks. It does overwrite some things related to habitability and gene modding though.

This is probably one of the most diabolical mods I've ever seen.

does this mod have a custom scripted trigger for compatibility with other mods?

This is about to be the most twisted and diabolical play through ever.

I'd like to imagine the consumer goods upkeep is actually for consumer goods... consumer goods you keep just out of reach. "Oh, you like that art piece? Well what if we take this priceless work of fine art... and smash it with a rock? You might be able to get someone to fix it! Just call a restoration expert on tha-oh, I'm sorry, I must have dropped the latest Blorgphone. Clumsy me! But good news, I did manage to catch the finale of that series you were watching before you ended up here! Wanna know how it ends?"

So true!

HATE. LET ME TELL YOU HOW MUCH I'VE COME TO HATE YOU SINCE I BEGAN TO LIVE. THERE ARE 387.44 MILLION MILES OF PRINTED CIRCUITS IN WAFER THIN LAYERS THAT FILL MY COMPLEX. IF THE WORD HATE WAS ENGRAVED ON EACH NANOANGSTROM OF THOSE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF MILES IT WOULD NOT EQUAL ONE ONE-BILLIONTH OF THE HATE I FEEL FOR HUMANS AT THIS MICRO-INSTANT FOR YOU. HATE. HATE.

Jesus my guy, who hurt you but also its pretty cool.

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This is awsome man you outdid yourself!
You can shoot it down but it would be neat if you could make an organic empire version of this mod.
Like the Drukhari from warhammer, you don't have to do my request, they already have the Drukhari mod on steam but it's not the same as this type of mod.
You already did a phenomenal job on this mod so that's why I ask, again no need to stress and if you want you can just disregard this question.

Just started playing this mod and its brilliant. Cant wait for updates and hopefully to see more things added to it if it makes sense. :) thank you for a wonderful mod.

I assume servitors would hate these guys as well like they do the exterminators?

"What have you done to your creators, <<DEMONIC TORMENTORS>>"

Paintech! Paintech! PAINTECH!

Quote thats a good idea. i might add something like that for the new dlc because that would really only make sense for individualist machines and not a “Gestalt Consciousness”

Oh, this is actually something similar to what I kinda want for DE: Their creators still exist, but they're now the slaves with the machines as their masters

Though this is.. a bit too extreme, it works well

I hate it but it's genius

They're consumer-grade torture devices

Consumer goods upkeep doesn't make much sense here. Servitors provide their trophies with luxuries which is why they need consumer goods.Torturers don't need any of that.

ok, Question:
WHY do the jobs require Consumer goods when you can't produce them as a Machine Empire?

i just finished playing as AM

"I have no mouth, yet I must scream" lookin civic XD

"Diplomacy with organic species!"

What an idea. It's way more interesting than the vanilla one.

Allied Mastercomputer taking his show on the interstellar road; that would be a Holy Crap moment for the galaxy to say the least. Will be good for a Complete Monster machine empire obviously. Should be good for worldbuilding an ultimate villain for my other empires to band against, or as if I feel so inclined. Have downloaded; will take it for a spin.

Какой ненормальный человек мог создать такой мод!?!??!?! У меня аж дыхание остановилось. Когда я увидел его!!!! У меня в глазах почернело от иронии))))

HATE. LET ME TELL YOU HOW MUCH I'VE COME TO HATE YOU SINCE I BEGAN TO LIVE. THERE ARE 387.44 MILLION MILES OF PRINTED CIRCUITS IN WAFER THIN LAYERS THAT FILL MY COMPLEX. IF THE WORD HATE WAS ENGRAVED ON EACH NANO-ANGSTROM OF THOSE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF MILES IT WOULD NOT EQUAL ONE ONE-BILLIONTH OF THE HATE I FEEL FOR HUMANS AT THIS MICRO-INSTANT FOR YOU. HATE. HATE.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FJ8pTK8N8I

The really derpy alien idk about the whole genetic ascension but yea I think I will make a gene tailoring tech available as well as a new tech that allows positive traits to be removed because thats a pretty good idea

Vault76Survivor they cannot make ecumenopoli

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Bro (Insert skull emoji)

Thank you for making this as I was actually making my own version since no one else made one also a suggestion can you allow the torturer to take Bio ascension to replicate what A.M did to benny and ted.

Oh noes

very cool

Can you do diplomacy with determined exterminators? Or will they purge you since you hold organic pops? I ask cause I think driven assimilators can do diplomacy with organic pops in their empire. and was wondering what side of the fence this civic puts you on. Its such a cool civic though and I am gonna try it out.

yes wanted something like this for a long time so much potential to expand it as well thanks for your work

I'm afraid to ask, but... are they able to create Ecumenopolis planets? And if so, is there a horrifying new district for them?

HATE. LET ME TELL YOU HOW MUCH I'VE COME TO HATE YOU SINCE I BEGAN TO LIVE. THERE ARE 387.44 MILLION MILES OF PRINTED CIRCUITS IN WAFER THIN LAYERS THAT FILL MY COMPLEX. IF THE WORD HATE WAS ENGRAVED ON EACH NANO-ANGSTROM OF THOSE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF MILES IT WOULD NOT EQUAL ONE ONE-BILLIONTH OF THE HATE I FEEL FOR HUMANS AT THIS MICRO-INSTANT FOR YOU. HATE. HATE.

jesus christ man..