Hey brotha, could you change the VFE Tribals research spot patch to not remove the def, but instead remove its designation category and strip its research requirements? It throws (harmless) errors on some of my modextensions when the building is missing and i'd like to keep this mod able to be used alongside my stuff by folks who want clean logs

@PeteTimesSix
Thanks for clarifying. Hope you also will make something more to mod, maybe some additions, QoL nad improvments.

@veoba I've been busy with a different thing lately, but that's the plan once I find some free time, yeah.

Are you going to update mod after CE released stable version? Getting errors:
https://gist.github.com/HugsLibRecordKeeper/85c2ff9ce3476876756e9e0303575ef7

Is this mod compatible with GonDragon's Tech Tree? I noticed some red errors and was wondering if there was a way to solve them :)

https://gist.github.com/HugsLibRecordKeeper/53b00a9edc46ade12de47374cee5ad92

When I start as a tribe with VFE Tribal, I have RR_BasicCraftingFacilities already researched. How can I change that?

Idk if it's possible from you, but could you add a patch or something so loincloths and chest wraps from UnderWhere aren't locked behind any research?
Or maybe just behind organization?
Vanilla Expanded Tribals kinda muddies that up a bit, getting full clothes before just simple coverings.

@PeteTimesSix Yeah, I'm an idiot. I had Completely Clueless installed when I did my first two attempts which removed them.

Thanks for letting me know though!

And what about dev branch?

@veoba That's all because Combat Extended changes/removes those defs before Stepping Stones get there. Given that CE's not officially done for 1.6 yet, I've not written the necessary patches to handle it yet either.

@Lemniscate_Mike This is intentional and also the case with just VEF: Tribals. Because you need campfires to do the brainstorming ritual.

@MR. Pickle Chips Surgery gating can be configured in the settings. The relevant techs are Simple apparel, Prosthetics and Penoxycyline on normal, and Medicinal herbs, Complex clothing and Drug production on easy.

Got bunch of errors - Have a problem with this mod:
https://gist.github.com/HugsLibRecordKeeper/0137cd872547d0d4f649f39dc9c8a8c7
Rows: from 3609 to 3622
Mod places them to earlier. Like - flamethrower with bows, lol.

Here's an interesting one for y'all: Whenever I start a tribal run I, for some reason, already have Organization and Fire already done. . .

Anyone experience something similar?

otherwise this is a 10/10 mod! plays well with most other mods ive used with it too

how do i install organs and drill arms? ive got sterile tiles got prosthetic ... i dont understand whats keeping from installing this drill arm?

@Semkay.
See below, its a feature. Unfortunately there's little I can do to make it more discoverable, since Rimworld doesn't show surgeries (or any recipe, for that matter) at all until it's unlocked.

I couldn't install organs and I found out that it happened because of this mod (started a new colony with this mod turned off and the problem was fixed).

hmmm it feels like i toggled the settings and all of a sudden it appeared. Its possible Penoxycyline was not complete when i toggled the setting, and then completed and i swapped back to normal and it appeared.

@GoblinEngineer @NyxHyperion

Huh, could have sworn I put that all in the tooltips but I guess it never made it in. It'll be in the next version, but until then the relevant techs are Simple apparel, Prosthetics and Penoxycyline on normal, and Medicinal herbs, Complex clothing and Drug production on easy.

I'm also struggling to determine which research is gating advanced bionics from EPOE: Forked. When I change setting to easy i can install, but when it is on normal i cannot.

Just a note, you should really specify which researches gate specific surgery types. It took me way too long to figure out that the reason I couldn't install the heart I bought was because I didn't research Penoxycilin when I had advanced bionic research. And before you say it says in the settings, no it doesn't, I checked.

I, honestly dont remember the specific way because I only noticed the glow there some nights after a raid, maybe it was blown up right as it was dropped or something? Cause I've had pawns die otherwise and drop the torch as normal and it went out.

@Farbott
You're probably stuck with the patch of light there, I'm afraid. Maybe building a lamp nearby or save-loading will force the glowgrid to update.
I'd be interested in replicating the issue so I can fix it going forward though. How'd the torch get destroyed? Its supposed to only emit light while wielded by a pawn.

The torch tool seems to have left behind an irremovable glow once it was destroyed, no errors are popping in the console and trying to devtool it away hasn't worked, any special way to remove this or am I screwed?

@moo
Days since I left a debug printout in a release build: 0
Fixed.

Hi Pete. An observation here - there's a large number of information log lines whenever a pawn has the melee torch equipped for updating the glower on a pawn. If it could be disabled, it helps keep log sizes managable. Thanks!

@bAhAcAn The colors are from this mod: https://steamproxy.net/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3108740804
As for overlapping techs, that's just a consequence of mods inserting their techs into the vanilla tech tree. There's just not enough room. Besides that, Stepping Stones also reorganizes the tree positions, so even mods that found some corner in the normal tech tree that's empty are likely to overlap.

Hello friend. How can I make my research tab look like yours? With colours and design wise. Mine looks like a mess. Some tech on top of others and such. Not even properly readable.

When I play with tribals, my colonists can’t generate theory papers. Is this normal?

@l.tabarelli
That's because the game itself has little to work with there.

this is a great mod, i like it
though i feel it has little in the medieval department

Ok nevermind working perfectly now. I think steam hadn't downloaded the latest version or something. Thanks a bunch!

@Kryoshi
VEF: Tribals, I presume? Should be fixed now.

Hi, I'm getting an error after the update:

Could not resolve cross-reference to Verse.ResearchProjectDef named RR_BasicFurniture (wanter=prerequisites)
UnityEngine.StackTraceUtility:ExtractStackTrace ()
(wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition:Verse.Log.Error_Patch4 (string)
Verse.DirectXmlCrossRefLoader:TryResolveDef<Verse.ResearchProjectDef> (string,Verse.FailMode,object)
Verse.DirectXmlCrossRefLoader/WantedRefForList`1<Verse.ResearchProjectDef>:TryResolve (Verse.FailMode)
...

Added a new early tech, Incendiary weapons .
Added a new simple weapon, a torch . It does as much damage as a log (with a small chance to deal small amounts of burn damage and ignite the target). It also emits light while drafted (credit goes to Lee and his lightsabers!)
The flamebow is now craftable.
The various grenade launchers now require a relevant tech (EMP weapons, incendiary weapons, tox gas, smokepop).
Heavy bridges now require Structures , not complex furniture. (this one's for you, @tokara )
Changed a lot in the Anomaly tech tree. Too much to list individually, but emphasis was on increasing what can be done with Anomaly without Electricity , and adding prerequisites from the main tree where it makes sense (for example, Serum synthesis now requires Drug production and Revenant invisibility now requires Bionic replacements ).

"The error 'Created FloatMenu with no options. Closing.' occurs in the function . This problem arises when the mod attempts to display a dropdown menu for plant type selection, but the plant list intended to populate the menu is empty.Defaults.PlantType.PlantTypeUtility:DrawPlantButton

This issue seems related to the (concerning your mod's transpiler patch) that was previously reported when hovering over drug descriptions.NullReferenceExceptionStatWorker.GetExplanationFinalizePart

Both errors suggest that your mod is failing to correctly retrieve or process the game's core data (e.g., plants or drugs defined as s) in RimWorld 1.6. In other words, if the error is a problem at the data processing stage (e.g., unexpected null value returns), then the 'FloatMenu with no options' is a symptom resulting from a lack of valid data to display in the UI."ThingDefStatWorker

I hope this information helps you investigate the issue. Thank you for your work on these mods!

Hello,

I'm currently using 1trickPwnyta's Defaults, and I've found an error when it's used with your mod. Specifically, it doesn't happen with Research Reinvented alone, but it does occur when Research Reinvented: Stepping Stones is also enabled.

This issue seems to have started after a recent update to Research Reinvented: Stepping Stones.

Here's the error log I've confirmed:

It's a bit strange that the heavy bridge is connected to furniture.

These all make sense to me, thank you for the update :)

The time has come for another round of potentially controversial changes!

Tox gas now requires Smokepop belts instead of Gunsmithing
Moved Hospital Beds earlier in the tech tree. Now requires Sterile materials and Machining instead of Microelectronics
Biosculpting and Cryptosleep caskets now require Vitals Monitor instead of Hospital beds
Long-range mineral scanners renamed to Long-range scanners . Now also unlocks (along with Orbital tech ) the orbital scanner
Geothermal power renamed to Passive generators . Now also unlocks (along with Advanced gravtech ) the gravcore power cell
Oxygen pumps now also require Air conditioning . Vac barriers now also require Shields
Various kinds of mortar shells now also require Mortars
Uranium slug turret and Rocketswarm launcher now also require Gun turrets

Thx

@Aschevacuum It's listed in the settings. Or look at Penoxycyline and Prosthetics in the tech tree.

So, Which project i supposed to complete to perfom surgeries? I really can't do anything

Are Vanilla Expanded mods patched?

I'm creating patches to increase the fluidity and cohesiveness of using this with other mods.

The first patch included in the mod is for Progression: Core, (safely) yeeting away an unused research.

https://steamproxy.net/sharedfiles/filedetails/?edit=true&id=3529151742

Gotta love it. Thank you for the hard work!

Pete the work you and Ferny are doing are so impactful, and now we can use both the mods together!
This mod has a brilliant industrial tech pacing and would pair so well with the Progression mods focusing on more neolithic. Thanks for the update!

I've added a small patch to make the mod function with Progression: Core. Not perfectly, but its a start. While doing so I've noticed Progression: Core actually has a patch for Stepping Stones on its side, but it's currently disabled, so I'll be talking to people about what that's about.

Pete you're my hero

yay!