Team Fortress 2

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Pyro weapons (Community Made Guide)
By The Crazed Buttstaber and 3 collaborators
Hey, Pyro Guide is here. Sorry for the delay, lots of stuff happening, but it's here. Come here, check the ratings on different weapons, give your own ratings so I can post them in the guide and W+M1 for life.
   
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Introduction
Yep, really sorry for the delay. Making guides during exams time isnt good for you. But okay, so this is probably not your first time visiting one of my community guides. You know the drill. If you dont, what you have to do is go to the comments and write your opinion and rating on weapons. I will post them here. Simple, right? Then do it, or I will send mr. pyro to your house! JK, or am I?
Badly rated primary weapons (0-4)
Degreaser

Overall score: 4,2/10

The Crazed Buttstaber: 6/10- ''Gets to much love''

Dave: 1/10- "You're not good, you're not funny, you're just a troll."

Tryhard Hunter 6/10- ''Fun''

Dr. Moron: 5/10- ''Highly overrated.''

Agent Walther: 1/10- "No"

Landeyx: 8/10- ''But but... the airblast!''

Cpt. Haxray: 3/10 - "Ever since the nerf, the degreaser has went from formerly tied with stock and backburner for best flamethrowers, to the absolete worst flamethrower in the game."

Phlogistinator

Overall score: 4.9/10

The Crazed Buttstaber: 4/10- ''Did you know it actually does 10% less damage? You know, like the degreaser, just way worse''

Dave: 6/10- "W+M1 W+M1 W+M1 MUST W+M1!"

Tryhard Killer 6/10- ''Effective at times''

Dr. Moron: 5/10- ''This thing ecourages W+M1 and somehow it works on any unaware guy.''

Agent Walther: 6,5/10- "Makes you rely on your flareguns before every crit charge. Or to be that stoopid m+w1 gibus guy"

Landeyx: 0/10- ''No' EDIT: *cough* Tough Break update *cough* buffed

Cpt. Haxray: 7/10 - "Formerly the worst pyro flamethrower in the game, after the buff to it, it has finally reached usable levels. Trading off lack of airblast for the ability to get full healed and crits after a short taunt, its rather balanced. The issue is how obvious you are when you use it."
So-so rated primary weapons (5-7)
Flamethrower

Overall score: 7,8/10

The Crazed Buttstaber: 9/10- ''Dont we all love stock?''

Dave: 10/10- "The F2P's Birthday gift. Except that it probably has an idiotic name with typos and penis jokes in it."

Tryhard Killer 1/10- ''No special ability''

Dr. Moron:9/10- ''The good ol' spychecking flaming farts.''

Agent Walther: 10/10- "Got a nostromo napalmer, never used the degreaser since that"

Landeyx: 8/10- ''Good''

Cpt. Haxray: 8/10 - " like most classes, stock is perfectly okay in any scenario"
Well rated primary weapons (8-10)
Backburner

Overall score: 8,1/10

The Crazed Buttstaber: 7/10- ''Gets to much hate.''

Dave: 9/10- "This is what Pyros are made for. Ambushing."

Tryhard Killer 10/10- ''See above''

Dr. Moron: 9/10- ''See what Dave said.''

Agent Walther: 3.8/10- "While it's really good for ambushing, it really decreases your survivability, making you next to useless in offence and makes you helpless against demomen with stock pill launcher. Oh, and every fight against a soldier will leave you with no ammo. Sorry, backburner fans"

Landeyx: 10/10- ''MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA CRITS''

Cpt. Haxray: 8/10 - "Sacrifices some of pyro's support for better picking power. A fair trade off."
Badly rated secondary weapons (0-4)
Panic Attack

Overall score: 3.8/10

The Crazed Buttstaber: 2/10- ''I went panic attack pyro once. I got dominated by 10 people...''

Dave: 4/10- "U wot m8"

Tryhard Killer 3/10- ''Get gud''

Dr. Moron: 3/10- ''How can something with 3 possitive attributes and only 1 negative attribute be so bad?''

Agent Walther: 8/10-"Kinda usable on pyro and engie as a last resort weapon after the buff. Oh, and it crits like hell from a long range for me"

Landeyx: 4/10- ''i panic when i see this weapon''

Cpt. Haxray: 3/10 - "(everything I said about it before still holds true)"
So-so rated secondary weapons (5-7)
ManMelter

Overall score: 5,2/10

The Crazed Buttstaber: 3/10- ''Bad, cant see a use to it.''

Dave: 4/10- "Got banned for infinite ammo."

Tryhard killer 3/10- ''Get gud returns''

Dr. Moron: 8/10- ''Use with the Phlog.''

SAW The Spartan: 7/10- ''The Man Melter is best used to combat snipers, or for close-mid spy checks and combat. Using this as a Sniper annoyer is really fun and effective, however the arc is less intense then teh default Flare Guns. No Crits on burning players tho. The crits on extinguish are nice, but aren't really as god as one may think. Best uses: Annoyance of scouts, heavies, and snipers at ranges most of them can't fight back...OH It's also awesome in MvM, once the Pyros attack (Scout+MM=Crits for years)''

Landeyx: 6/10- ''It has got infinite ammo i must say but it shoots slow.''

Cpt. Haxray: 6/10 - "While not unusable by any means, the fact that you're pretty much relying on putting out teammates for crits really hampers how effective this weapon is. Add in the fact its 'airblast' is so short ranged and requires a few seconds to kick in, and it greatly reduces how effective it is."

Reserve Shooter

Overall Score: 5.8/10

The Crazed Buttstaber: 6/10- ''Only slightly better than the stock shotgun''

Dave: 2/10- "no"

Tryhard Killer 6/10- ''Im not good at it''

Solly Sauce: 8.9/10- "Good with the degreaser, and Axtinguixer or Power Jack combo"

Dr. Moron: 8/10- ''If you wanna be a D Bag use with the degreaser.''

Landeyx: 8/10- ''minicrits mid-air''

Cpt. Haxray: 2/10 - "Thats right. Worse than the panic attack. While im unsure if its intentional or not, airblasts no longer count for the minicrits, rendering this almost always a downgrade from stock."

Shotgun

Overall score: 6,7/10

The Crazed Buttstaber: 5/10- ''Good? yes, though I never found a use for it.''

Dave: 6/10- "Only use against Pyros."

Tryhard Killer 9/10- See above

Dr. Moron: 7/10- ''Only effective against pyros.''

Agent Walther: 4.5/10- "Erm... Anti-pyro weapon only, i guess. Use flareguns for a long range combat"

Landeyx: 8/10- ''Can't beat this''

Cpt. Haxray: 8/10 - "(Again, hard to go bad with stock)"

Flare gun

Overall score: 7,8/10

The Crazed Buttstaber: 6/10- ''I like the other flares more...''

Dave: 4/10- "nerf pls"

Tryhard Killer 9/10- ''See above''

Dr. Moron: 9/10- ''Finally pyro has some range.''

Landeyx: 10/10- ''Lets snipe some burning players THE CRITS!''

Cpt. Haxray: 9/10 - " One of the few times ill say an unlock is almost always better than stock, without being overpowered. "

Detonator

Overall score: 7.8/10

The Crazed Buttstaber: 8/10- ''ROCKET... I mean FLARE JUMP!''

Tryhard Killer 10/10- FUNNNNNNNN

Dr. Moron: 6/10- ''When I first came across it I thought that it will be brilliant!But it wasn't.''

Landeyx: 9/10- ''Become a demopyro.''

Cpt. Haxray: 6/10 - "the lack of crits on hit really kills off any chance this weapon has to be anywhere near as good as the normal flare gun. However, it does shine as a good 'practice' weapon for getting used to the normal flaregun, as well asgiving flare jump potential"
Well rated secondary weapons (8-10)
Scorch Shot

Overall score: 8,2/10

The Crazed Buttstaber: 9/10- ''I just love shooting this to a bunch of enemys and see them panic looking for a medkit... Its lovely...''

Dave: 10/10- "Scout, get away from my medkit."

Tryhard Killer 6/10- Best for defense

Dr. Moron: 8/10- ''GET OFF MY LAWN STUPID SPY!''

Agent Walther: 9.5/10- ''A rocket launcher and a flare gun combined. What's not to love?''

Pyronoiac: 10/10- "Some men just want to watch the world burn. I watch from a distance"

Landeyx: 8/10- ''Pushing people :3''

Cpt. Haxray: 8/10 - "After the gunmettle buff, this thing has come a long way. It completely outclasses the detonator due to its sheer utilty, despite having the least damage of all of the flare guns."
Badly rated meele weapons (0-4)
Sharpened Volcano Fragment

Overall score: 4,5/10

The Crazed Buttstaber: 2/10- ''We all know why this diserves such a low score...''

Dave: 7/10- "Always carrying one."

Tryhard killer:1/10 Nope

Solly Sauce:1.3/10- "♥♥♥♥ weapon, only use I found was in Medieval Mode, but still, pills are everwhere and can easily take out the fire."

Dr. Moron: 5/10- ''I have a flamethrower.A flametrower why this was created?''

Agent Walther: 10/10- "Underrated. Lets you keep doing your job even after losing all your flamethrower ammo, just don't go berserk with it"

Landeyx: 3/10- ''some use in medieval mode no use in life.''

Cpt. Haxray: 7/10 - " I do believe people hate on this weapon a bit too much. Pyro as a whole is pretty much screwed generally if forced into a melee fight, and having a bit of afterburn on a target after you die has its upsides. The stock still beats it, IMO."

Axtinguisher

Overall score: 4,7/10

The Crazed Buttstaber: 7/10- ''It is still good... Just not amazingly OP as it was before... Plus, minicrits are still some good damage...''

Dave: 1/10- "Piece of ♥♥♥♥."

Dr. Moron: 6/10- ''I feel bad I didn't try it before that cursed nerf.''

Agent Walther: 7.7/10- "Even after the nerf it's still good. You can become... A spyro"

Landeyx: 2/10- ''Why is there an australium of this thing?''

Cpt. Haxray: 1/10 - "The nerfs to it has hit this weapon so hard, you're probally gonna get more fire-related kills with the sun on a stick."
So-so rated meele weapons (5-7)
Fire Axe

Overall score: 5/10

The Crazd Buttstaber: 5/10- ''Stock is stock, nothing special here.''

Dave: 5/10- "Too lazy to write something here, look at Buttstabber that spelled his name wrong."

Tryhard Killer 3/10- *_____*

Dr. Moron: 4/10- ''This weapon is...''

Agent Walther: 4/10-"Has no actual use for a class with a flamethrower, SVF and Back Scratcher are better as a last resort weapons IMO"

Landeyx: 5/10- ''nothing special here''

Cpt. Haxray: 8/10 - "(really hard to go bad with stock weapons, even on pyro)"

Back Scratcher

Overall score: 7,6/10

The Crazed Buttstaber:10/10- ''Love it to death :3''

Tryhard killer 6/10- Good for scratching backs

Dave:10/10- "Got banned for damage hacks"

Dr. Moron: 8/10-Good for a roaming pyro.

Landeyx: 4/10- ''no''

Cpt. Haxray: 6/10 - "Funnily enough, the issue with this weapon is not so much the overheal reduction as the fact you get more heath from medkits. This encourages you to go for medkits, which are generally best left for the medic and scouts(who the medic rarely gets to heal most of the time). Otherwise, this is a perfectly fine weapon."
Well rated meele weapons (8-10)
Neon Annihilator

Overall score: 8/10

The Crazed Buttstaber: 6/10- '' Jaws 6: The Pyroshark!''

Dave: 9/10- "Pyro became a Water element."

Dr. Moron: 9/10- ''Jaws:Pyroshark coming to the 2Fort and Lakeside theater.''

Landeyx: 8/10- ''DANGER PYRO SHARKS SPOTTED''

Cpt. Haxray: 1/10 - "Really only can get use out of it if you're on a map with water, and generally being in water hunting people with a melee weapon really shouldn't be something you do often. Really only good as a funny gimmick weapon."


Homewrecker

Overall score: 8.1/10

The Crazed Buttstaber: 4/10- ''Will people hate me if I say I dont like helping engys?''

Dave: 6/10- "If you have Uber, use it."

Tryhard Killer 9/10-Useful

Dr. Moron:10/10- ''This is the one of the only reasons I play pyro.''

Agent Walther: 10/10- "Nice for... Erm... Assisting? Well, i would say defence, but those agressive engies on ctf maps just made it harder to choose a correct word."

Landeyx: 10/10- ''Become a pybro remove sappers and be the ultimate spy hunter.''

Cpt. Haxray: 6/10 - "It might sound surprising, but pyro really doesn't stick around sentry nests that often. Pyro is usally constantly moving around, as hes the jack of all trades class. hes not the best at any of his roles, but hes able to simply patch holes where needed, as well as being able to use airblast to knockback projectiles. Kinda hard to do that when you're camping a sentry"

PowerJack

Overall score: 8.8/10

The Crazed Buttstaber:8/10- ''Stop. HAMMER TIME !!!''

Tryhard Killer 10/10- Useful

Dave: 10/10

Dr. Moron: 9/10- ''Is this thing cursed with crits?''

Landeyx: 7/10- ''a giant hammer wich will make you fast and give hp on kill.''

Cpt. Haxray: 9/10 - "One of the best of pyro's melees, the speed boost helps pyro gets around to where hes needed the most."

Strategy for pyro
Do to some comments talking about the lack of strategy on my guide and some other comments just outright giving strategy instead of ratings, I decided to create a section so those people can still give out strategy and get featured in the guide at the same time:

Triceriscope:If ur using any flare gun, equip it often, because its a lot more useful in combat than most people think.

RamboTheMambo: Backburner+Detonator+PowerJack

The perferct ambush pyro.

Agent Walther:

1) The survivability build: stock flamethrower, scorch shot and powerjack or back scratcher. The stock one will let you do some serious dps while being able to teach those demos and soldiers a lesson. Scorch shot does... Ugh... Everything. It's a nerfed version of tfc fire rocket launcher. And your melee gives you more options to gain a lot of health.
2) The ambusher build: the backburner, flare gun, neon annihilator. Burn the backs, oneshot the survivors with the flare gun and do the same thing with those stupid enough to hide in the water. Oh, and your melee works with mad milk and jarate too!
3) The ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ build: the degreaser, the reserve shooter, the axtinguisher. So called meta pyro, but it works on bad players only. And on unaware ones.
4) The annoyer build: the stock flamethrower, the detonator and the svf. Just use the detonator for groups and flare jumps, all other weapons are for, ugh, flaming people. They get annoyed when they are on fire.
5) The supportive build: stock/phlog, man melter, homewrecker. Support your team, get benefits from it. Choose the phlog if soldiers/demos are not a big problem or if you can't airblast, but you have to be more careful and use the melter a lot more with it.
The End
Well, now that you have read it all, its time for you to actually go comment your rating on weapons and help me make this guide bigger, a real community guide. Rules are that I can only post an opinion of weapons if they have a rating of 0 to 10. Strategy doesnt need rating.

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105 Comments
Gent 28 Sep, 2019 @ 3:22pm 
Hallo, ik denk dat je me weer uit Discord hebt verwijderd en ik vraag me af of je me nog een keer kunt toevoegen :) Gent#0851
rinzor 16 Sep, 2017 @ 12:52am 
I also dunno why I posted that here.
rinzor 16 Sep, 2017 @ 12:52am 
I dont see why the phlog gits so much hate. And why W+M1 gets so much hate aswell, I mean, you expect a pyro to use: HIs most effective source of damage; His middle/second most effective source of damage, or his weakest source of damage? Quit hatin guys.
Leafbox_ 14 Sep, 2017 @ 10:44am 
Sharpened Volcano Fragment - 8/10
Boi, that is FROM THE F**ING VOLCANO! look killing scouts with 1 hit after afterburn boi.
Dudmaster 15 May, 2017 @ 12:46pm 
You forgot about the Third Degree
Scariest thing ever 10 Mar, 2017 @ 7:19am 
Degreaser-0/10 it sucks dicks and just waste of place and more shit
Sharpened Volcano Fragment-10/10 FUCKING DEAL WITH IT SWIGGITY SWOOTY BLAZE IT #2BADASS4U
Walter White 16 Sep, 2016 @ 11:49am 
m opinion degreser - 8/10 faster wep swich what make pyro do more damge than with regular w+m1 but 5 more ammo airblast and afterburn lover damage sems gut deal
Walter White 16 Sep, 2016 @ 11:46am 
hmmm degreser wrost score backburner the best score wowie lot of pepoles are fuking W+M1
Moon 3 Aug, 2016 @ 6:50pm 
Flamethrower 10/10

Stock, is the best if you can't find anything good on the table.

Reserve Shooter 10/10

There's always a Sticky Jumper Demoman or a Rocket Jumping Soldier, shoot him.

Shotgun 10/10

I can't find anything bad about it!

Sharpened Volcano Fragment 9/10

Whenever you can't find a drop of gas your gonna need this.

Fire Axe 10/10

Stock is stock, it's good anytime of year, no buffs, no nerfs.
Comet Blaze 25 May, 2016 @ 3:37pm 
Exactly plhog is now buffed i use it and its awesome