Marble Age

Marble Age

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斯巴达攻略(Guide of Sparta)
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本指南旨在向新手介绍如何正确使用斯巴达这个独具特色的文明,改变传统的发展思路

This Guide is for beginners to know how to play as sparta in the right way, which is diffierent from the conservative way of developing.
   
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会不会斯巴达就看前十回合(First ten turns mean everything)
斯巴达的描述是文化和外交和文化孱弱,为什么不说经济弱呢,嘿嘿,看完你就懂了。
开局的perk我个人倾向于选择human sacrifices用来弥补文化上的不足,不建议选DUAL RULE,其他都行。

The discription of SPARTA is 'weak diplomacy and culture'. Why not economy? LOL,you will know after reading.
I prefer chosing human sacrifice to fill the weakness of culture. Other perk is also ok, but don't choice DUAL RULE. It's useless.

第1回合 First turn
第一回合,通常惯性思维会先把农田填满吧,但是斯巴达恰好相反,先把兵营填满,为的就是第一时间出大将军。
On the first turn, we need to fill barracks immidiately in ord to get a general at third turn.

第3回合 Third turn
获得大将军,果断进攻迈锡尼城,直接获得50人口,以及增加50人口上限。
We get a general on third turn, then attack the MESSINI and acquire 50 pops and pop limit.

获得50人口后,将兵营填满,并分配大约17人左右到矿上面,为的保证2回合后造出健身房,以及3回合后得到一个新科技。人口不需要增长。如果进攻迈锡尼的时候幸运地得到金钱和文化,这一切会变得更加容易。

Full fill the barracks, avoid the pop growth, and distribute the rest of man as the picture above in order to build gymnasium after two turns and get a new tech point after three turns.
PS: If you are luck enough to achieve gold,production and cuture while attack the MESSINI, it will be much easier. For now, I will discuss the most nomal condition.

第6回合 sixth turn
得到第一个科技,果断投入到神学(mythology)上面,不要因为这会缺钱就点交易科技哦,斯巴达赚钱不用靠交易。
Spend tech point into mythology. Although the money is extremely lacking this time, yet don't waste tech point on trading part. SPARTA won't depent on trading to earn money!

卖掉一半的部队来获得1.1k的钱,价格是一个兵40黄金,这样差不多可以用很久了。这会有100%的造兵速度加成,所以卖兵来赚钱远比交易合算。
dismiss half of the troops to get 40gold for each soldier. At this time, we will earn about 1.1k gold, which is enough to spend for many turns.
Since we have 100% Army growth up now, It is worthwhile to build army and dismiss therm to get gold. Trading means nothing to SPARTA.

第10回合 tenth turn
艰难的抉择来了,乍一眼看上去四个律法都很诱人,但是代价也很大。但是稍作思考就会发现,如果你选了增强军队力量,那你一定要选增加建造速度来使之前的选项达到最大效果,如果选择了增加建造速度那一定要选择增加军队上限来配合使用,如果增加了军队上限那么一定要选择降低军费开支。
所以结论就是当你把四个律法都选择了之后,他们之间相辅相成,产生了量变到质变的效果,真正的战斗民族斯巴达正式成型!!
而且,因为有60%的造兵速度加成,所以接下来依旧可以通过造兵卖兵来赚钱,完全不需要加商业科技,多余的科技点可以点到军事科技树上面,让斯巴达变得更强。
同时减少40%军费开支这个律法效果其实好的出奇,因为初始的军费开支只有50%,而这个减少竟然不是相乘的关系而是相减!那就意味着最终只有10%的军费开支,妈妈再也不用担心我屯兵了!

This choice panel is the core of SPARTA. The enhance of laws is very attractive but the disadvantage of them is also disappointing.
The right way to play as SPARTA is to choose all of laws above. While army enhancements of four laws combine together it will lead to the wakeing of a fighting nation!
PS: Because of the +60% army growth, It will be more profitble to build&dismiss army than the way of trading. So we can save tech point from trading tree into military tree which makes SPARTA even more strong.
PPS: The law of 'BAN LUXURY' is very interesting. Its effect is much better than I expected. The initial Army upkeep is 50%. After the effect of'army upkeep -40%', it not become 50%*(1-40%)=30% but turns into 50%-40%=10%. GODNESS! what's the meaning of 10% army upkeep, It means that we can hold a huge amount of army without any worry about gold!

同一回合,攻陷迈锡尼,完成任务,获得500人口,加上迈锡尼的50,就是550人口!

At the same turn, we conquer the MESSINI, complete the mission and get the 500 pop.

因为这时只有100的农田,所以你的人民会挨饿,造成矿,并填满工人,离造出下一等级的农田只需要两回合,饿两回合完全没事。
Since the farm size is only 100, the people of SPARTA will suffer the starvation.Don't be panic. Build mine and fill it with worker immediately. It will take only two turns to have the corral lv1. And we've already make a great progress in the first ten turns.
合时统一希腊(proper time to unite greece world)
It is not suitable to unite greece too early or too late. There are several crucial tasks you have to finish before going to the outer world. We will discuss in the following part.
Firstly, we need to know two things.
1.Which resource will remain after unification
  • Production,culture,ship and gold will toally gone no matter how much you own before the unification. The quantity of these resource after unification only determined by which turn you unite the greece. The latter the action the more reward you'll have.
    This mean you can squander money as you like before you decided to do the unification. And it won't have any influence on later game.

  • Population will remain the same. But it isn't important. Since you can't hold much pop without higher level tech.

  • Technoledge tree will remain the same. So I recommend you to finish the level1 tech tree before going to the new world.

  • Technoledge point will lose. So don't be too late to unite the greece otherwise you will waste a large amount of culture.

  • General and envoy will lose. Use them as you wish. I prefer to purchase land or attack ATHENS to get strength bonus.

  • This is the most important part! The number of traders will remain the same! Traders are most important resource after the unification. Because that the first mission you'll have is to make two alliances and to build up three trading routers. After completing this mission the period of 'conquer the Roman' will come, and we'll get a 300% army growth speed up. This mean that if we put citiziens into barracks to produce troops and dismiss them to earn gold, we'll get about 16 gold for one person per turn! I didn't even count other bonus on army growth.
    In order to achieve brilliant victory we have to enter 'conquer the Roman' as quick as possible. Then we can easily make a huge amount of gold while waiting Arab to attack.
    Alliance is easy to form but traders are difficult to get. The first trader needs 20K ship to appear. So I recommend saving as many traders as you can before unification.
    For example, In hard mode, i usually spend a trader on EPHESUS whose relations will improve 0.2 per turn with trading route and bring two traders into the new world. In easy mode, I won't waste any of the trader.

  • In conclusion, we have two important things to do before unification, finishing the level1 tech tree and waiting for the third trader to appear. As a result, it is not suitable to unitegreece before 120turns.


2.Time schedule of certain events
The judgement of appropriate time mainly based on the certain events like wars,plague that we must go through. For SPARTA the time schedule is as below.

Event
turn
duration
needed most
Persian Invasion
13
10
Army
Alexander the great
28
10
Gold/Army
Roman strenth
51
>=10
Gold/Army
Scythian ivasion
103
20
Gold
Christianity
116
20
Patient
Huns invasion
140
20
Gold
Fall of roman
forgot :p
none
none
Justinian plague
180
10
Gold/Population
Arab invasion
198
40
Gold/Culture
Collapse of Arab
241
none
general/envoy
Brilliant victory
250
none
Cities/Cuture/Gold

After unification, We will lose alliances and colonies that we had before. Same as the exploring bonus. And combat strength will drop a lot.
So, don't do the unification while a invasion is close. Acording to the table above, The Huns Invasion is close after 120th turn. But there will be a very long peace period between the Huns Invasion and the Arab Invasion.(Justinian plague is not worth worried) It's a perfect time to enter the new world after defeating the Huns. In addition, we can make the full use of the gold which won't follow you to the new world by using them on Huns to reduce it's troops.
To sum up, the best time to unite the greece is between 140th turn to 160th turn. The perfect situation is that we finish the level1 tech tree, hold three unused traders and Successfully conquer Huns on the first turn the invasion appear. We'll step into the new wold on 140th turn. Then the brilliant victory is just waving to us.

PS: I write this guide because of loving to the game and for the purpose to improve writing english. I'll be very glad if you can point out some mistakes for me. (-:

11 則留言
sgalanter 2021 年 2 月 1 日 上午 9:49 
Fantastic work. I had no idea you could sell troops, also! :300:
Shakira 2020 年 11 月 9 日 下午 7:14 
Dang dude, I had no idea you could sell troops! I honestly couldn't even tell you weren't a native english speaker until you said it at the end. Thanks for the guide!
tosac 2016 年 8 月 5 日 下午 3:17 
hey, i think that this guide needs some more attention. If you agree you should feel free to share it here http://steamproxy.net/groups/GuideShowcase/discussions/0/353915309352842511/
And your guide should get a little boost ;), have a good day
Midgard 2015 年 6 月 7 日 上午 5:39 
补充下,“Fall of roman”事件发生在166回合,提供“+200k人口”、“+30M金钱”、“+30M文化”、“+150k军队”四个选择,用斯巴达的话本来选加人口是最好的可以迅速完成统一后的第一个任务然后获得+200%军队招募速度的加成,但是不知什么原因我玩的时候出现红字"The Romans fears us"而无法选择加人口。
Impracticalmagic 2015 年 5 月 31 日 下午 1:06 
OK, so I see that the first mission after unification has change for Sparta - now slave raids. Maybe working to get traders less important than originally thought? Thanks for great advice on early turns though!
Impracticalmagic 2015 年 5 月 31 日 上午 5:00 
Suggest the following wording under turn 10: "Since the farm size is only 100, the people of SPARTA will suffer starvation.Don't panic. Build mine and fill it with workers immediately. It will take only two turns to have the corral lv1 building. And we've already made great progress in the first ten turns." :mom:
Apostulator 2015 年 5 月 15 日 下午 7:48 
Bi-lingual; a bold and impressive work. But, please go through and put an "R" in all your references to Spata, so they read "Sparta," instead. Please?
Lambo 2015 年 4 月 10 日 上午 9:43 
写得很好!学习了学习了!
Malteze 2015 年 3 月 30 日 下午 12:52 
Very cool!
EstebanT 2015 年 3 月 25 日 上午 5:43 
Great !
But don't you get bad event as sparta when you have negative gold output. Even if you have massive amount of gold in your treasury ?