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Elizabeth Fight Guide (Merciless)

By Zyloc

I bring you Megidolaon!

Award

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Shin Megami Tensei V: Vengeance

Category: Characters, Gameplay Basics, Secrets, Walkthroughs

Languages: English

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Guide Index

Overview

TL;DR

Note

General

How to get to Elizabeth?

Equip

Items

Personas

Combat

End

Comments

TL;DR

In battle, there are things that can trigger a Pixie's Megidolaon (on every difficulty level). This always deals 9,999 damage. Twice, this Megidolaon is inevitably triggered. On these two occasions, you must survive once with Enduring Soul and once with Endure.

The Megidolaon triggers:

When you use Armageddon without defeating her through it.
When Elizabeth hits a null resistance (or Repel/Absorb).
In the second turn after her HP falls below 13,000.
In the third turn after this Megidolaon.
On her first turn after her HP falls below 10,000 in Phase 3.
After 50 turns.

To counteract this, the following is mandatory:

It is crucial to know what will happen in the fight and when. Otherwise, you will definitely die.
A calculator is mandatory.
You must not violate any of Elizabeth's rules.

Regarding preparation, a few things must definitely be present on every difficulty level, otherwise you'll get one-shotted:

Having no null resistances on active Personas
1x Endure / 1x Enduring Soul on two different Personas
Armageddon-Theurgy (= Helel + Satan fused once)

Here is a video of my fight:
I have displayed the current HP in the upper right corner to make the phase transitions more visible.
The timestamps indicate the phase transitions.

Note

This is my original guide in German: https://steamproxy.net/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3158340888
I translated it into English using AI. So there may be some mistakes.

General

The fight can be very long and requires a lot of preparation. Essential is the Persona Orpheus Telos, which you can only get if you have maxed out all Social Links. If you haven't done this, it will be very difficult. However, it is also possible on other difficulty levels without it.

Before the fight you need:

Equipment
Items
Personas
Knowledge about the battle flow

See below for details.

How to get to Elizabeth?

Elizabeth is located on Floor 255 of Tartarus, behind the last Monad Door.

You need to have Request 101 "Take out the ultimate adversary" active for the fight.
To obtain Request 101, you must have completed all Monad Doors in Tartarus.

The fight can only be entered solo.

Equip

Equipment is important, because without it you will take significantly more damage and have to heal more often. It is possible to do without it, but it makes the game unnecessarily more difficult.

Lucifer's Blade increases all stats by 7 and grants the ability Magic Ability, which increases non-Almighty damage.
Obtained by trading at the Mayoido Antiques shop in the mall.
Armor of Light greatly reduces magical damage.
Obtained by trading at the Mayoido Antiques shop in the mall.
Shoes of Bane protect against Elizabeth's Insta-Kill "Die For Me!" from Alice. This block does not count as a rule violation. If you don't have them, you should bring enough Homunculi with you.
Obtained from Tanaka's Amazing Commodities on 11/29. (Use the TV in the protagonist's room)
Divine Pillar gives the effect "Firm Stance", which halves damage but prevents you from dodging.
Obtained by completing Request 100 "Bring me a Bloody Button" (kill the Reaper).

Items

You will need:

Soma
The fight takes a very long time and you don't want to run out of SP towards the end. The healing effect is also very good. Alternatively, Precious Eggs are also a good option.
Bead
So you don't have to switch to a Persona just to heal yourself. You don't necessarily want to switch to a Persona other than Orpheus Telos, as he has the best resistances for the fight.
Homunculus
Not necessary if you have Shoes of Bane.
This prevents insta-kills if you don't manage to dodge them.
Endure or Enduring Soul is triggered before a Homunculus.

Personas

The overall strategy is to have as many resistances as possible to reduce damage while covering all important bases.

You can use this tool to fuse Personas specifically for this fight: https://aqiu384.github.io/megaten-fusion-tool/p3r/personas

You basically need 3-5 Personas for different roles. See below.

Almost all high-level Personas have at least one null resistance. The exceptions are Orpheus Telos and Chi You.

Notes:

Nr. 1 is not mandatory, just a QoL improvement.
Nr. 2 only needs to be switched in once, but doesn't need to do anything else. Can be combined with Nr. 1.
Nr. 3 & 4 can also be combined into one Persona.
I have removed the irrelevant skills.

Auto-Kaja
Before the fight, you equip a Persona with all Auto-Skills to start the fight already buffed. This Persona is not needed afterwards. It is possible to fight without this Persona, but it is not a big effort to fuse it.

Required Skills:
- Auto-Tarukaja / Auto-Mataru
- Auto-Rakukaja / Auto-Maraku
- Auto-Sukukaja / Auto-Masuku
The rest doesn't matter.
Enduring Soul
One Persona only needs the skill Enduring Soul to survive the Megidolaon in Phase 3, which is triggered when the HP threshold of 10,000 is exceeded.

You can also put this on Nr. 1.

It should also have Concentrate or Charge to quickly finish Phase 2 (see below). Any cheap Persona can do this job. I just picked up Lucifer from the job center.
Buffer/Debuffer
One Persona is responsible for buffs.

This Persona will be used repeatedly and should therefore have no null resistances, as this would break a rule. Chi You is a good choice because all other high-level Personas have at least one null resistance.

If you have space, you can add resistances to make the Persona more robust. You can exchange the Resist spell cards for gems in the mall.

A high En-value is also advantageous, so you don't have to heal as much.

Required Skills:
- Debilitate
- Heat Riser
- Insta-Heal
- (Resist XY)
- (Regenerate 3)
Almighty + Endure
This Persona's only job is to be used once in Phase 3 to survive an unavoidable Megidolaon with Endure.

It only needs to trigger the phase transition = let HP drop below 10,000. So it's worth it if it can deal enough damage so it doesn't get too close.

Since you use Armageddon afterwards, the rest doesn't matter.

Required Skills:

Morning Star / Black Viper (Satan only)
Endure
(Almighty Boost)
(Almighty Amp)
(Multi-Target-Boost / Single-Target-Boost for Satan)
Orpheus Telos
This Persona is the core of the battle. He has resistance against everything, without nullifying them. He basically only exists for this fight.

Builds:

There are different ways to build him, but I highly recommend Ice Element. There are two reasons for this:
1. You can attack twice per rotation - once on Surt and once on Cu Chulainn. In between, you cast Concentrate. With other elements, Elizabeth's rotation in Phase 1 doesn't fit as well.
2. Ice Amp and Ice Boost also affect the King and I Theurgy. This allows you to deal up to 5,000 damage.
High Ma and En values are important.

Required Skills
- Diamond Dust
- Ice Boost
- Ice Amp
- Spell Master
- Concentrate
- Single-Target-Boost
- Insta-Heal
- Regenerate 3

Alternative Builds:

Alternatively, you can also use other builds, especially on lower difficulties. It will just take a little longer.

Element
You can also use the build from above with another element. Then you take the corresponding skills (e.g. **Inferno + Fire Amp + Fire Boost)
Almighty
This is the simplest, since you don't have to worry about enemy resistances and you need less specific skills.
- Morning Star
- Almighty Boost
- Spell Master
- Concentrate
- Multi-Target-Boost
- Insta-Heal
Physical
You can crit, but it's also more dangerous because of the HP drain of the attacks.
- God's Hand
- Strike Boost
- Strike Amp
- Arms Master
- Charge

Combat

The whole thing is more of a choreography than a fight. It always follows certain rules.

No Nulls/Absorbs/Refelcts on Personas
As soon as Elizabeth cannot deal damage with an attack due to Null/Absorb/Refelct, the rule is considered broken. The same applies to High Counter etc., as this is basically a Reflect.
Resists are however allowed.
Null-Instakill on equipment is allowed.
Maximum of 50 Turns
Do not use Armageddon (unless Elizabeth is defeated by it)
This will become important later. You can use Theurgy, but you have to end the fight with it.

If you violate any of these rules, she will use Diarahan and Megidolaon on her Pixie until you are defeated.

You need to have a calculator next to you so you can react correctly to the phases. You then always subtract the damage caused from her HP.

Endure and Enduring Soul are important skills that should be triggered intentionally. Each of the two effects can be triggered once.

Elizabeth has 20,000 HP.

Phase
20,000 - 13,001 HP

The fight always goes very similarly. She summons her Personas in sequence and uses their abilities twice per turn.
(In rare cases, she may skip a Persona after taking an attack.)

During the fight, you always try to attack Elizabeth with as much buff as possible while she does not have a Persona active that you would hit with your resistance.

If Elizabeth has a Persona active that has a null resistance (e.g. Masakado), you use the turn to buff yourself or debuff her.
You basically wait for her to provide an opening.

Runde

Persona

Skill 1

Skill 2

Skill 3

Skill 4

Skill 5

1

Surt

Inferno

Charge

Tarukaja

Brave Blade

Slash Attack

2

Jack Frost

Diamond Dust

Concentrate

Rakukaja

Rakunda

3

Thor

Thunder Reign

Concentrate

Tarunda

God's Hand

Strike Attack

4

Cu Chulainn

Panta Rhei

Charge

Sukukaja

Primal Force

Pierce Attack

5

Metatron

Kougaon

Divine Judgement

Sukukaja

Sukunda

6

Alice

Eigaon

Die For Me!

7

Nebiros

Ailment

Rakunda

8

Masakado

Megidolaon

Concentrate

With their Personas, their resistances change:
1. Surt
2. Jack Frost
3. Thor
4. Cu Chulainn
5. Metatron
6. Alice
7. Nebrios
8. Masakado
Phase 2
(13,000 - 9,999 HP)

This phase triggers once she falls below 13,000 HP.
(You can skip the phase by dealing enough damage to bring Elizabeth directly below 10,000 HP.)

She introduces the phase with the words "Magnificent! ..." and casts Nebiros Rakunda + Concentrate.
On her next turn she will cast Megidolaon once: "I bring you Megidiolaon!"

To survive this, you need to switch to a Persona with Enduring Soul (No. 4).

Now you need to get her below 10,000 HP as quickly as possible. Otherwise, she will spam Megidoloan.

To do this, you need to prepare everything just before 13,000
= Debilitate / Heat Riser / Concentrate or Charge

Even though she is neutral to all elements, Elizabeth takes more damage when you use a Persona that has the opposite element to her current Persona.
- Surt - Ice
- Jack Frost - Fire
- Thor - Wind
- Chu Chulainn - Elec
Phase 3
She initiates the phase with the words "Marvelous..." when she is first brought under 10,000 HP.

She then fully heals herself once with Diarahan and buffs herself with Heat Riser.

Then she starts again with Surt. She no longer strictly rotates her Personas in order. She also uses two different Personas per turn.

Turn

1st Persona

2nd Persona

1st Persona

2nd Persona

1

Surt

Jack Frost

2

Thor

Cu Chulainn

3

Metatron

Alice

4

Nebrios

Thor

5

Jack Frost

Thor

6

Alice

Surt

7

Cu Chulainn

Masakado

8

Alice

Masakado

OR

Ch Chulainn

Metatron

You have to pay attention to which Persona she used her last attack with to identify the resistance.

The goal is to get her as close to 10,000 HP as possible again. Once she is below 10,000 HP, she will spam Megidolaon.

To counter this, you must perform the attack that brings her below 10,000 HP with a Persona that has Endure (No. 3). Of course, this effect must not have been used up yet.

Once she is below 10,000 HP, you have to use the Theurgy Armageddon to end the fight. Otherwise you will die.

End

After the fight, you'll receive another item that you can give to Elizabeth to complete Request 101. You'll also receive a great reward for doing so. :)
An accessory that allows you to nullify everything (except Almighty).

Thanks for reading!

13 Comments

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Albel90 7 May @ 12:48pm

Have the same problem as Hathaway Noa. She constantly casts heal and Megidolaon right off the start. I removed like everything (!) Lowest of low equipment, only Orpheus Telos, same outcome. The f- is this?

Hathaway Noa 5 May @ 3:55am

I have question why my Elizabeth always use heal and Megidolon every turn
i dont have the null accessory and i'm not even repel or absorb her attack i'm so lost

miku simp 7 Apr @ 10:05pm

More things I noticed:
-Using the opposite element will do more damage, even more than almighty. Use ice attacks after surt, lighting after cu chulainn. For this reason physical skills do poorly in this fight. A wind persona will work great in phase three, since she ends with thor frequently
-Doing enough damage will cause her to skip a persona in the rotation
-In phase three she will randomly jump back to surt+jackfrost and start the rotation from the beginning. for this reason you should never bring a persona that nulls fire
-When you are close to the final breakpoint, spamming megidolaon gems can be useful since they deal a guaranteed 200 damage

Aero 15 Mar @ 10:48am

Hi,
My german isn't perfect but I'm fairly competent. I'm fluent in english.
You mentioned possible translation errors due to ai translator usage.
Since I know both english and german, would you want help checking for any errors in the english version?

icymist_043 13 Mar @ 4:54am

Do you know if Elizabeth breaks the order and deliberately uses attacks you absorb/block in phase 1? Like during her 3rd turn, she is supposed to use Thor so I used a persona which does not absorb elec but does null wind and she used cu chulainn instead.