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Aircraft Ammo Belts
By polly
Original: https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/395110-complete-guide-to-picking-ammo-belts-updated-dec-2021/

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Note #1: The listing is based on where the gun came from, not where it's located in the tech tree (for example the Lewis machine gun is found on the S.81 Italian bomber in the Italian tech tree but is of US origin and design so on this guide it's located under the US section).

Note #2: This list is mostly applicable for picking belts for enemy aircraft engagements. For guns capable of ground attacking non-soft targets (medium tanks, heavy tanks, light pillboxes etc) I included the appropriate belts for them too.

Note #3: This guide is not opinionated. The belts that were chosen in this list represent the maximum damage you can get out of the guns they are referred to. Some players would rather use tracers on the type 99 mk II Japanese 20mm for example as personal preference (I did that for a very long time too, thinking tracers were the best for Japanese 20mms but I was wrong), but Universal has the most damage output.

Note #4: This list also includes Stealth ammunition belts for specific guns because they're as good as the other best ammo belts but are better, in the sense of making surprise attacks on enemy planes because usually players only react to being shot at when they see tracers flying past them, and only react to stealth ammo when they're hit. If you are able to lead stealth ammo, that's great; it's another option for you rather than only Universal on MG 17s for example.
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United States of America


  • 7.62mm Browning: Universal/Stealth
  • 7.62mm Browning (turret): Armored Targets
  • 7.7mm Lewis (turret only, found on the Italian S.81): Universal
  • 12.7mm M2 Browning (early war): Ground Targets/Stealth
  • 12.7mm M2 Browning (mid+late war): Universal/Stealth
  • 12.7mm M2 Browning (turret): Universal
  • 12.7mm M3 Browning: Universal/Stealth
  • 20mm T31: Air Targets/Stealth
  • 20mm AN/M2: Air Targets/Stealth
  • 20mm AN/M3: Air Targets/Stealth
  • 20mm Browning-Colt Mk 12 Mod 3: Air Targets
  • 20mm Mk 11 mod 5 (gunpod): Air Targets
  • 20mm T-160: Air Targets
  • 20mm M24A1: Air Targets
  • 20mm M39A1: Air Targets
  • 20mm M61: Air Targets
  • 37mm M4: Ground Targets
  • 37mm M10: Ground Targets
  • 75mm T13E1: Ground Targets (enemy aircraft)/Armored Targets (ground targets)
  • 75mm M10: Ground Targets (enemy aircraft)/Armored Targets (ground targets)
Germany


  • 7.92mm MG 15: Universal/Stealth
  • 7.92mm MG 15 (turret): APT
  • 7.92mm MG 17: Universal/Stealth
  • 7.92mm MG 17 (turret): AP-T
  • 7.92mm MG 81: Universal/Stealth
  • 7.92mm MG 81 (turret): AP-T
  • 13mm MG 131: IAI/Stealth
  • 13mm MG 131 (turret): Default
  • 15mm MG 151: Air Targets
  • 20mm MG C/30L: HEFI-T
  • 20mm MG FF: Air Targets
  • 20mm MG FF (turret): Universal
  • 20mm MG FF/M: Air Targets
  • 20mm MG 151: Air Targets/Stealth
  • 30mm MK 108: Universal/Stealth
  • 30mm MK 103: Air Targets (enemy aircraft)/Armored Targets (ground targets)
  • 37mm BK 3,7: Air Targets (enemy aircraft)/Armored Targets (ground targets)
  • 50mm BK 5: Air Targets (enemy aircraft)/Armored Targets (HVAP-T) (ground targets)
  • 50mm Mk.241a: Air Targets (enemy aircraft)/Armored Targets (HVAP-T) (ground targets)
  • 75mm BK 7,5: Air Targets (enemy aircraft)/Amored Targets (HVAP-T) (ground targets)
USSR


  • 7.62mm PV-1: Universal
  • 7.62mm DA (turret only, on TB-3): Universal
  • 7.62mm ShKAS: Universal
  • 7.62mm ShKAS (turret): Universal
  • 12.7mm UB Berezin: Air Targets
  • 12.7mm UB Berezin (turret): Universal
  • 20mm ShVAK: Air Targets/Tracers
  • 20mm ShVAK (turret): Air Targets
  • 20mm B-20M: Ground Targets/Stealth
  • 20mm B-20S: Ground Targets/Stealth
  • 20mm B-20E (turret only): Air Targets
  • 23mm VYa-23: Universal
  • 23mm NS-23: Air Targets
  • 23mm NS-23K: Air Targets
  • 23mm NR-23: Air Targets
  • 23mm NR-23 (turret): FI-T
  • 23mm GSh-23L: Air Targets
  • 30mm NR-30: Air Targets / Ground Targets
  • 37mm NS-37: Air Targets
  • 37mm N-37: Air Targets
  • 37mm N-37D: Air Targets
  • 45mm NS-45: Default
United Kingdom


  • 7.7mm Vickers E: Universal
  • 7.7mm Vickers K (turret only): Universal
  • 7.7mm Browning: Universal
  • 7.7mm Browning (turret): Universal
  • (British) 12.7mm M2 Browning (turret only): Universal
  • 20mm Hispano Mk.I: Stealth
  • 20mm Hispano Mk.II: Air Targets
  • 20mm Hispano Mk.V: Air Targets
  • 30mm ADEN: Air Targets
  • 40mm Vickers S: Air Targets (enemy aircraft)/Armored Targets (ground targets)
  • 47mm Vickers P: Default
  • 57mm Molin Class M: Default
Japan


  • 7.7mm type 89: Universal
  • 7.7mm type 89 'special' (turret): Armored Targets
  • 7.7mm type 89 (turret): Armored Targets
  • 7.7mm type 92 (turret only): Armored Targets
  • 7.7mm type 97: Universal
  • 7.7mm type 97 (turret): Armored Targets
  • 7.7mm Te-1 (turret only): Universal
  • 7.92mm type 98 (turret only): Armored Targets
  • 12.7mm Ho-103: Air Targets
  • 12.7mm Ho-104 (turret only): Universal
  • 13mm type 2 (turret only): Universal
  • 13.2mm type 3: Ground Targets
  • 20mm type 99 mk I: Universal
  • 20mm type 99 mk I (turret): Air Targets
  • 20mm type 99 mk II: Universal
  • 20mm type 99-II mk. 5(turret only): Air Targets
  • 20mm Ho-1 (turret only): Air Targets
  • 20mm Ho-3: Universal
  • 20mm Ho-5: Universal
  • 20mm Ho-5 (turret): Air Targets
  • 20mm JM61A1: Air Targets
  • 30mm type 5: Tracers
  • 30mm Ho-155: Tracers
  • 37mm type 94: Default
  • 37mm Ho-203: Default
  • 40mm Ho-301: Default
  • 57mm Ho-401: Default
  • 75mm Type 88: Ground Targets (enemy aircraft)/Armored Targets ground targets)
Italy


  • 7.7mm Breda-SAFAT: Universal
  • 7.7mm Breda-SAFAT (turret): Universal
  • 12.7mm Breda-SAFAT: Air Targets
  • 12.7mm Breda-SAFAT (turret): Universal
  • 12.7mm Scotti (turret only): Universal
  • 102mm 102/35 mod 14: Ground Targets (enemy aircraft)/Armored Targets (ground targets)
France


  • 7.5mm MAC 1934: Universal
  • 7.5mm MAC 1934 (turret): Armored Targets
  • 7.5mm Mle 33: Universal
  • 7.5mm Mle 33 (turret): Armored Targets
  • 7.5mm Mle 1923: Universal
  • 7.5mm Mle 1923 (turret): AP-T
  • 7.5mm Darne 1933: Universal
  • 7.5mm Fabrique Nationale Mle 38: Universal
  • 20mm Hispano HS.9: Universal
  • 20mm Hispano 404: Universal
  • 20mm Hispano 404 (turret): Universal
  • 20mm M50: Air Targets
  • 30mm DEFA: Air Targets
Sweden


  • 8mm Ksp m/22: Air Targets/Stealth
  • 8mm Ksp m/22 Fh: Air Targets/Stealth
  • 8mm Ksp m/22 Fv: Air Targets/Stealth
  • 8mm Ksp m/22-37 R (turret): AP-T
  • 12.7mm Akan m/39A: Universal/Stealth
  • 12.7mm Akan m/40: Air Targets/Stealth
  • 12.7mm Akan m/45: Universal/Stealth
  • 13.2mm Akan m/39: Air Targets/Stealth
  • 13.2mm Akan m/39A: Air Targets/Stealth
  • 13.2mm Akan m/39 (turret): Universal
  • 20mm Akan m/41A: Air Targets
  • 20mm Akan m/45: Air Targets
  • 20mm Akan m/47B: Air Targets
  • 20mm Akan m/47C: Air Targets
  • 20mm Akan m/49: Air Targets
  • 30mm Akan m/55: Air Targets
  • 57mm Akan m/45: Ground Targets
29 Comments
polly  [author] 5 Feb @ 6:17am 
I use the air belt
GreyTheWuff441.TTV 4 Feb @ 4:42pm 
The 30mm GSh-30-1 on the MiG29 is missing from the list, I know you'd normally be using missiles at that br, but just in case it comes to guns, what belt would be best?
PanchoX4 22 Nov, 2023 @ 10:23am 
Hey there, i came here while flying the F-5E and noticed the US part is missing the 20mm M39A3 (even though the answer is probably "Air Targets")
polly  [author] 1 Oct, 2023 @ 9:56am 
SAP is not worth it for air targets
polly  [author] 1 Oct, 2023 @ 6:42am 
let me test that
Kiwiwi 1 Oct, 2023 @ 5:26am 
On the F16-C it gets a SAP round unlike the other F16s, it the ground target belt with all SAPs better or worse than the air targets
󠀡󠀡󠀡󠀡󠀡󠀡Marc🦈 26 Sep, 2023 @ 10:55am 
Sucks the WT forums needlessly changed. Glad this version is still up here. :jake::steamthumbsup:
polly  [author] 26 Sep, 2023 @ 8:33am 
appreciate it man!
PanchoX4 26 Sep, 2023 @ 8:08am 
Just wanna thank you for having this post up on steam. I had the original post from the WT forums saved as favorite but it is no longer available.
󠀡󠀡󠀡󠀡󠀡󠀡Marc🦈 27 Jul, 2023 @ 1:33pm 
Real Shatter is apparently removed now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8eGGtuSldI