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Light Mechs (v 1.8)
Készítő: Marbur
A comparison of the load weight of Mechs (Light, Medium, Heavy and Assault)
   
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Kategória: Osztályok, Barkácsolás, Játékmenet alapok, Fegyverek
Languages: Angol
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2019. aug. 2., 11:11
2022. júl. 9., 0:20
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Áttekintés
Intro 
Comparison of Light Mechs 
Comparison of Medium Mechs 
Comparison of Heavy Mechs 
Comparison of Asssault Mechs 
Interesting Discussions about Light mechs 
Infos 
20-25 Tons / Light / Locus, Commando 
30 Tons / Light / Urban, Spider 
35 Tons / Light / Panther, Fire, Jenner 
40 Tons / Medium / Vulcan, ASN, Cicada 
45 Tons / Medium / Blackjack, VND 
50 Tons / Medium / Centurion, ENF, HBK, TBT 
55 Tons / Medium / SHD, KTO, WFR, GRF 
60 Tons / Heavy / Rifle, Dragon, QKD 
65 Tons / Heavy / Catapult, Jager 
70 Tons / Heavy / Archer, GHR 
75 Tons / Heavy / Orion, Knight, Thunder 
80 Tons / Assault / AWS, Zeus, Victor 
85 Tons / Assault / Stalker, Battle 
90-100 Tons / Assault / High, Atlas, King Crab 
Megjegyzések
Intro
I made this guide because the storage overview doesn't satisfy me.
Maybe it will help others too. The mech pictures are screenshots and can be enlarged with a click.
Only the mechs I have so far are in this guide.

It's part of the game mechanics that with a better relation of free space to max weight the speed goes down. I think a big extra space is normally more worth and with Jump Jets you can partially compensate the reduced speed.

DLCs:A tonnage limit is introduced by a DLC and also "light mechs only" missions. Don't throw away all your light mechs in the middle of the campaign, if you want to play the DLCs.
Comparison of Light Mechs
Some mechs are really better than others.
Example: As long as there is no overall tonnage limit, a Jenner is better in everything compared to a Commando. A Jenner is faster and can load more gear.

I stripped all my light mechs and gave them the exact same 5to armor.
Light mechs have an initiave value of 4.

The differences of free space are astonishingly.
Free Space
Name
Max Weight
Max Sprint
Max Move
Melee
17.5
Panther
35
200
120
50
16.5
UrbanMech R60
30
165
90
40
15
UrbanMech R90
30
200
120
40
11.5
Firestarter
35
275
165
45
8.5
Jenner
35
315
190
35
7
Commando
25
275
165
35
4.5
Spider
30
350
210
30
2
Locus
20
350
210
15
The real max free space is 5 to greater, but it make no sense to use a mech without armor.
Comparison of Medium Mechs
I stripped all medium mechs I got and gave them the exact same 400 armor (5 to) like I did it with the light mechs.

The differences of free space.
Free Space
Name
Max Weight
Max Sprint
Max Move
Melee
Special
26.5
Centurion
50
200
120
70
26.5
Enforcer
50
200
120
65
23.5
Vindicator
45
200
120
55
23.5
Blackjack
45
200
120
40
23.5
Hunchback
50
200
120
80
23
Shadow Hawk
55
240
140
85
23
Griffin
55
240
140
70
23
Kintaro
55
240
140
70
23
Wolverine
55
240
140
70
21.5
Trebuchet
50
240
140
65
13.5
Vulcan
40
275
165
50
Yes
9
Assassin
40
315
190
50
Yes
9
Cicada 3C
40
315
190
25
1.5
Cicada 2A
40
350
210
25
The real max free space is 5 to greater.

Medium mechs are easier to hit as light mechs and have a lower initiative (3). At least you should add 200 (2.5to) additional armor and have at least 600 armor in the normal campaign.

As long as there is no overall tonnage limit, a medium Shadow Hawk is better compared to a light Panther. A Shadow Hawk is faster and can load more gear, but has a lower initiative.
Comparison of Heavy Mechs
I stripped all heavy mechs I got and gave them the exact same 5 to armor like I did it with the light mechs.

The differences of free space.
Free Space
Name
Max Weight
Max Sprint
Max Move
Melee
Special
37.5
Orion
75
200
120
95
37.5
Black Knight
75
200
120
95
36
Archer
70
200
120
100
Yes
36
Grashopper
70
200
120
90
34
Thunderbolt
65
200
120
80
34
Catapult
65
200
120
60
34
Jagermech
65
200
120
60
31.5
Rifleman
60
200
120
55
Yes
24
Dragon
60
240
140
90
24
Quickdraw
60
240
140
55
The real max free space is 5 to greater.

Heavy mechs are easier to hit as medium mechs and have a lower initiative (2). You should add more additional armor.
A heavy Orion got much more space and the same speed as a medium Centurion. Only the initiative is lower.
Comparison of Asssault Mechs
I stripped all Assault Mechs I got and gave them the exact same 5 to armor like I did it with the Light Mechs.

The differences of free space.
Free Space
Name
Max Weight
Max Sprint
Max Move
Melee
Special
60.5
Highlander
90
165
95
115
60
Atlas
100
165
95
140
60
King Crab
100
165
95
125
52.5
Stalker
85
165
95
80
49.5
Awesome
80
165
95
120
37.5
Zeus
80
200
120
110
37.5
Victor
80
200
120
100
37.5
Battlemaster
85
200
120
115
The real max free space is 5 to greater.

Assault Mechs are easier to hit and have the lowest initiative (1). You should add more additional armor.
Infos
Body Parts
It does matter on which part of a mech a weapon is mounted.
In this screenshot you can see that arm mounted weapons have a shot modifier discount of 1 (this is good).

The shot modifier is very well explained in this guide:
https://steamproxy.net/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1384166394

Melee Attacks
A successful melee attack removes all evasion of the target.

Melee attacks don't generate heat.

DFA = Death from Above. (Using your jump jets to land on an enemy.)
This value is visible, if you look at the melee values of a mech.
A Death from Above attack will damage the legs of your own mech and make the mech more unstable. Use this ability carefully.
The example values are from a Centurion.

Other Infos
The jump jets for different classes have a different weight.
0.5to = Light and Medium
1to = Heavy
2to = Assault
20-25 Tons / Light / Locus, Commando
The mechs in these chapters are sorted by max weight and then by free space.

Locus 2 / 20 Tons
LCT-1E


LCT-1M


LCT-1S


LCT-1V


Commando 7 / 25to
COM-1B


COM-2D
30 Tons / Light / Urban, Spider
Urbanmech R60 16.5 / 30to
UM-R60


Urbanmech R90 15 / 30to
UM-R90


Spider 4.5 / 30to
SDR-5V
35 Tons / Light / Panther, Fire, Jenner
Panther 17.5 / 35to
PNT9-R


Firestarter 11.5 / 35to
FS9-H


Jenner 8.5 / 35to
JR7-D
40 Tons / Medium / Vulcan, ASN, Cicada
Vulcan 13.5 / 40to
VL-5T. Part of the Heavy Metal DLC. This mech has hardwired installed an improvement for +90m range of support weapons and +10 melee hit defense modifier. More infos in the screenshot.


Assassin 9 / 40to
ASN-21. Part of the Heavy Metal DLC. This mech has hardwired installed an improvement against evasion (ignores 3 points of evasion).


Cicada 3C 9 / 40to
CDA-3C. Unusal: Both legs have a slot for a support weapon.


Cicada 2A 1.5 / 40to
CDA-2A. This variant of the Cicida mech is really funny. It has the same speed as a Locus, but less free space, lower initiative and the double weight.
45 Tons / Medium / Blackjack, VND
Blackjack 23.5 / 45to
BJ-1
This is your mech at the start.


BJ-1DB


Vindicator 23.5 / 45to
VND-1R. Unusal: Weapon slot in the head.
50 Tons / Medium / Centurion, ENF, HBK, TBT
Hunchbak 26.5 / 50to
HBK-4G



HBK-4P


Centurion 26.5 / 50to
CN9-A


CN9-AL


Enforcer 26.5 / 50 to

ENF-4R


Trebuchet 21.5 / 50to
TBT-5N
55 Tons / Medium / SHD, KTO, WFR, GRF
Shadow Hawk 23 / 55to
Unusal: Both variants have a weapon slot in the head.
SHD-2D


SHD-2H


Kintaro 23 / 55to

KTO-18


Wolverine 23 / 55to
Unusal: Both variants have a weapon slot in the head.
WVR-6K



WVR-6R


Griffin 23 / 55to
GRF-1N


GRF-1S
60 Tons / Heavy / Rifle, Dragon, QKD
Rifleman 31.5 / 60to
Part of the Heavy Metal DLC. This mech has hardwired installed a range improvement (+100 view, -2 recoil and range penalty). More infos in the screenshots.
RFL-3C


RFL-3N


Dragon 24 / 60to
DRG-1N


Quickdraw 24 / 60to
QKD-4G


QKD-5A
65 Tons / Heavy / Catapult, Jager
Catapult 34 / 65to
CPLT-C1


CPLT-C4


Jagermech 34 / 65to
JM6-A


JM6-S
70 Tons / Heavy / Archer, GHR
Archer 36 / 70to
These mechs have hardwired installed an improvement for LRMs and SRMs (+LRM Clustering, +75% SRM Stability Damage). They are part of the Heavy Metal DLC. More infos in the screenshots.
ARC-2R . A missile specialist with only 2 missile slots.


ARC-2S. This is the better version, because it got 4 missile slots.


Grashopper 36 / 70to
GHR-5H. Unusal: It has a weapon slot in the head.
75 Tons / Heavy / Orion, Knight, Thunder
Orion 37.5 / 75to
ON1-K


ON1-V


Black Knight 37.5 / 75to
BL-6-KNT. Unusal: It has a weapon slot in the head.


Thunderbolt 34 / 75to
TDR-5S


TDR-5SE


TDR-5SS
80 Tons / Assault / AWS, Zeus, Victor
Awesome 49.5 / 80to
AWS-8Q. Unusal: It has a weapon slot in the head.


Zeus 37.5 / 80to
ZEU-6S


Victor 37.5 / 80to
VTR-9S
85 Tons / Assault / Stalker, Battle
Stalker 52.5 / 85to
STK-3F


Battlemaster 37.5 / 85to
BLR-1G
90-100 Tons / Assault / High, Atlas, King Crab
Highlander 60.5 / 90to
HGN-732B. You get this mech in the campaign as a reward.


Atlas 60 / 100to
AS7-D


King Crab 60 / 100to
KGC-0000
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17 megjegyzés
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powerpcs2 2022. szept. 25., 4:18 
Nicely made Guide, Marbur... Only one thing to be helpful to you about, I'm sure you mean "5 Ton" armor. And, I'm sure there are folks that do not quite realize that each Ton of Armor adds 80 Points of armor in BTech the PC Game. So, those 5 Tons of armor add up to 400 Armor Points overall. Thank you for this guide. =)

:steamhappy: :steamthumbsup:
Marbur  [készítő] 2022. júl. 9., 0:23 
Thanks for your comments. :steamhappy:

In this guide are only the mechs I got myself so far.
In the last time I didn't have much time to play on PC, If it changes I can think about adding new values.
The values of the hunchback are now corrected.
Neput 234 2022. júl. 5., 8:57 
There is a mistake in a Hunchbacks tonnage. The "Current tonnage" is listed as "Free tonnage" in the spreadsheet.

Hunchback, Centurion and Enforcer have the same free tonnage availability...

A more accurate comparison would have been 2 columns :
One with fully stripped mechs ( no weapons or armor )
And the second one With Max Armor and No Weapons
Tirith Amar 2022. máj. 18., 7:36 
The max armor stat in the comparison and how much free weight with max armor would be cool too.
Vetgirig on Linux 2020. szept. 14., 19:48 
UM-R60L is not in the list either.
Marbur  [készítő] 2020. febr. 14., 13:53 
Sorry, only the mechs I have so far are in this guide.
I've got only one part of a Cyclops. I hope to find more.
comppasha 2020. febr. 14., 9:00 
Where is Cyclops?
JonborgVA 2020. jan. 4., 19:52 
Weird cause I've never seen it 🤔
Marbur  [készítő] 2020. jan. 3., 2:29 
You can see the single weight of a weapon, if you place the mouse over the weapon.
JonborgVA 2020. jan. 2., 19:20 
Where do you find how much weapons weight