My problem with B-130 isn't getting stuck or crossing waters, it's the mind-numbing trips required at 2 points a trip (I don't like using trailer since it makes travel 50% tougher and limits my short-cut routes).

loganjamesalex I see you have experience with real life mud bogging but game is different than real life. DuffT_Carrot has the point that this is like "cheating" but if you want to do this way you can, but if you want to have fun in game go complete it like its ment to be completed by driving B-130, its your choice. Guessing that you didnt play Original SpinTires B-130 requires some knowledge to drive in both games. In MudRunner its harder to drive B-130 than in Original SpinTires but if you know how to drive its really easy.

Leave Zil at the lumber mill.
Go get loose logs with C-375 (or anything with crane and short log trailer).
Pack them onto Zil at the lumber mill.
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Umm it's called a challenge? The thing you were asking for? When I got the B-130 achievement I didn't tow it I just spent like 3hrs crawling through the mud. I don't know if you know this Mr. "600hrs" but both in real life and in the game mud is gotten through best if you don't spin your tires. I.E. let the tires spin as slowwwwwwly as possible while still moving forward and you won't get stuck. With a full load of 4 points in a trailer I can get through with the B-130 with that technique. I only tried it because I have experience mud bogging in the canadian rockies in real life and the first thing they teach you is to not throw the mud spinning your tires. Even though the game lets you set a limit to your throttle (which would be 100% necessary playing with keyboard) I prefer to use the hair trigger on my Xbox controller the same way I would use my foot in real life. Unless you have some weird definition on what a trailer is same way you call it the zil.

"you know what? Have your own opinion." is about the most intelligent thing you have said until you follow it with, "no one changes their minds in this community at all" like your opinion is somehow above even the game developers tutorials and intentions. Your brain needs a serious psychological evaluation if you can't even see you are doing the exact thing you are protesting.

The lack of self awareness is stunning.
"kinda what i call . . . cheating"
"I dont think you understand the point of the zil-130"
"Ive seen people admit the ZIL-130 is one of the only fun vehicles in the game."

"no one changes their minds in this community at all, just like the retarded Spintires - Mudrunner "Whos better" argument."

First you call the normal game mechanics (that are explained by the game an even have achievements related to) "cheating". Let alone the "never carry a trailer" like that makes any sense. Then you say, "extremely challenges a player" "extreme reflexes and gearbox knowledge" "I played this game for so long,and use the Zil 2/3rd of times" right after saying never use a trailer?

It would also be pretty easy to think that you have a brain since you have been typing and making comments for awhile but you interpreting my comments as some sort of attack on the B-130 makes it pretty clear that you don't.

You have your games list hidden like all trolls. I don't even know if you own the game.

"ZIL-130", "extremely challenges a player" "extreme reflexes and gearbox knowledge" "I played this game for so long,and use the Zil 2/3rd of times" "60 hour peasant."

Seriously just listen to yourself. The type of "fan" that thinks anime can only be enjoyed in Japanese with subtitles and always calls "Super Saiyan" "Super Saiyajin" instead. The type of entertainment elitist that refuses to be summoned in Dark Souls unless you get confirmation that they have beaten the boss solo at least once. The type of no-fun/no-life that considers using firecrackers or fistful of ash as "cheating" in Sekiro. Shave the neckbeard and go to the beach or something, maybe get your hands on an off-road vehicle and see what makes "Mudrunner" fun in real life.

Yeah, I do. I earned this achievement the "normal" way but that is not the point. The point with this game is the sandbox. "Cheating"? By using a winch? Please. He isn't even going outside of what the developers intended. "never carry a trailer,it slows you down alot," because the game is all about speed right?(sarcasm) You must have a lot of fun playing every level the exact same way and never experimenting or trying anything outside the box. If you truly understood what this game is about you wouldn't have said either of those things.