I sse.
=>(L4) PVP area(where we can take unsightly behavior) is limited by unwritten moral laws.

...Then, each other thinks about each other almost as follows.

▼group Law think as follows...

Members of group Free are poor and selfish. They let us take time and effort.
They should follow our play style. Because our play style is setmaster and more excellent than their it.

▼group Free think as follows...

Members of group Law are elitists and despotic. They force us to keep their local rules.
They are misunderstanding that their rules are universal. They infringe the freedom of the play style of everyone.
They should admit that not only physical interference but also psychological interference is a part of the game. Their insistence looks just like the lines that an old Japanese baseball player said. "The bunt is unfair. Hit the ball fairly."

PvP area is unlimited, just don't be an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ when invading, and if you are, prepare to be considered as one. The other "Laws" are somewhat correct to me.

I see.
To summarize the opinions so far...Is it as follows?

▼group Law

member: Kwak etc.
principle: Order priority
views:
(L1) We should keep unwritten moral laws.
(L2) We shouldn't take unsightly behavior that deviates from the moral law.
------ baiting people, healing
(L3) Each play style has an rank of honor.
------ There are low rank play styles(♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ moves).
(L4) PVP area is limited by unwritten moral laws.
------ after Sulyvahn etc.

▼group Free

member: Raphanis etc.
principle: Freedom priority
views:
(F1) All we have to do is keep the minimum rules.
(F2) Behavior is free within the regular game system.
(F3) All play style are equally honorable.
(F4) PVP area is unlimited as long as online.
------ If we don't want to be invaded, we should play offline or summon helpers; Sunlight, White, Darkmoon, Blue.

▼group Anarchy

member: Anycheater etc.
principle: Nothing
views:
(A1) Only anarchy
------ Using cheat, Insulting after killing, Turning off the line...

No, I dislike sorceries, but they are not ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ moves, baiting people to mobs and healing are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ moves, they make the combat boring and lame.

Do you say "These are '♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ moves'. Because I dislike."?
Excuse me, I thought that this problem is 'right or wrong'. So I said general reasons.
If your reason is only 'dislike', these '♥♥♥♥♥♥♥' are your personal '♥♥♥♥♥♥♥'; are not mine.
I think that '♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ moves' are wrong moves, so I listed those 3 points.
Do your reason is only 'dislike'?

Sorceries are acceptable di per se, I dislike that kind of playstyle really much, but some people don't, so no problem, same thing for the dark sword but bombs, baiting people and healing are just ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ moves. If you wanna play "tactically" go play an RTS.

By the way, Kwak, '♥♥♥♥♥♥♥' what you think are 'sorceries, trying to bait people to mobs, bombs, heals in fight and dark sword'?
I think them tactics.

Because:
(1) Soul Level of Dark Spirit is lower than Host.
(2) Host can summon supporters, but Dark Spirit is unsupported.
(3) Estus of Dark Spirit are only half of Host.

⇒(1)(2) are reasons of 'trying to bait people to mobs'.
⇒(3) is reason of 'heals in fight'.

I think that the following things are '♥♥♥♥♥♥♥'.
- Using cheat.
- After the opponent dies, throwing Dung Pie(Stalk Dung Pie).
- Turning off the line When it saw that it were losing.

And, I go home when Host throws Help me Carving.

How are these?

OK. From now on, I will be careful as much as possible. Even if I can't completely stop.

I love PVP, I like invading and being invaded, but if you invade in a section of the game that is not meant for PVP by the community, please at least don't be an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ while fighting

Invading is part of 'DARK SOULS3'.
If we don't like being invaded, should we play offline or summon Blades of the Darkmoon?
Or, is my manner too overkill?

Just go to pvp after Sulyvahn instead of invading people and wasting their time.

yeah, yeah, I like more 'trick play' than 'technique play' or 'power play'.
I want to play Tsujigiri(辻斬り), so I invade and use to sorceries, trying to bait people to mobs, bombs, heals in fight and dark sword.
If I want to fight fairly, I will go to Hollow Arena. As indeed I had gone to Hollow Arena often.

yeah, so that's why you stil gotta get good after 1700 hours.

I'm sorry. 1700 hours on the game, it has 2 reasons. (1) I play almost only 'DARK SOULS3'. (2) The Co-op waiting time is included in this 1700 hours.

1700 hours on the game and
Sorceries, trying to bait people to mobs, bombs, heals in fight and dark sword. gtfo

OK, I meditate and still a pleb.

again? impressive black crystal for someone who presumably played this game 1600 hours. still a pleb.

was that really everything you got?

NO...no...I am hearing..."your back...your back..."...え？

You were mistaken.

I felt like I heard something.

There was nobody else there lmao

I may have heard something

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