So did everyone else. That's how you knew you were safe. It's like killing Caesar. Everyone's guilty. Matt wasn't dirty. I was. Everyone was in that precinct. That's how it worked. You turn in your buddy, you're screwing yourself. You go along to get along.

Stacey Ehrmantraut : And you went along?

Mike Ehrmantraut : I did. Yeah. I did.

Stacey Ehrmantraut : Okay. But you said Matt didn't.

Mike Ehrmantraut : No, not Matt. Fensky got to Hoffman early - kickbacks from some gang or another. Protection, basically. And Hoffman went to Matty and offered to cut him in. Only fair, right? They were partners. And Matt did what you would think. He agonized. And then he came to me, wanted to go to the I.A., do the right thing, shut 'em down.

Stacey Ehrmantraut : Oh, my God. And you let him? That's why he got killed 'cause he was gonna turn on those guys?

Mike Ehrmantraut : No. No. I told...

Mike Ehrmantraut : You know what a cop fears most? More than getting shot, more than anything? Prison. Getting locked up with everybody you put away. You threaten a cop with that, you make him dangerous, and that's what I told him. I talked sense. No one was getting hurt. But if you go to the I.A., if you even look like you're going. He had a wife, a kid, responsibilities. Take the money. Do something good with it.

Mike Ehrmantraut : Well I tried. I tried. But he wouldn't listen. My boy was stubborn. My boy was strong. And he was gonna get himself killed. So I told him... I told him I did it, too. That I was like Hoffman, getting by, and that's what you heard that night me talking him down, him kicking and screaming until the fight went out of him. He put me up on a pedestal, and I had to show him that I was down in the gutter with the rest of 'em.