this was the biggest scam ever lmao. he actually put some thought into the bets in early April and March, then went full ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ tilt when he saw more people were joining. the ♥♥♥♥♥ made 450 keys and left

Look at me, look at me, I'm the captain now

Lol I come back and now I'm admin.

ALL IN UNDERDOGS. I AM CAPTAIN NOW

lol he's gone for good now. wish I never saw his advertisement on reddit for the group. I made a few thousand before and lost most of it after joining. he hyped the underdogs so hard it got to my head. RIP for me boys, gl.

Lol Nash made NOVA teh admin and peaced

damn there's like a little revolt going on in this group lol

Welp thanks Nash

Nash, the first month was good, everyone seemed happy despite some low level inventories who didn't belong here. This month was rough, a couple of bad bets had people salty and upset for various reasons (some justified and some not). Overall it was okay, maybe the losses for everyone got to your head and you feel bad about it but they happen and will happen again in the future. In the past few days you pretty much shut down, beside the original post, no interaction with anyone in the comments or updates, even when legitimate questions were asked nothing was answered. It's not right for you to put all the members in the group into the same basket and ignore everyone because of a situation that didn't make you happy. People are still following and taking your advice into consideration, that is hurting them right now because of how you been acting lately.

If you are done with betting groups, at least finish it on a positive note, for yourself and people who supported you from the start.

agree juan its a dope group. only criticism is some bets only have amounts on it and not low/medium/high. after a while u can figure about by urself though. keep up the good work

Given the recent ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ of negative feedback, I just wanted to take second to say how much many of us appreciate the time and effort you've put into this group, Nash. It really is a small price to pay to get some unbiased and interesting analysis on each day's games. It's a shame that all the negative ♥♥♥♥ has made it feel too much like a job. Cheers, and good luck in all future endeavors.

@EMPATHY!

- Rockets in 7
- Atlanta in 6

Atlanta in 7 (Finals)

:^)

predictions for NBA conference finals?

alright i'll try to keep that in mind for future predictions

You're paying for knowing my bets and my reasoning behind them. Most people have been happy with this. And you would be happy with this too if the last three days have been full of wins rather than losses.

Generally I format my bets in one of four ways. On extreme overdogs i.e 75%+, I will do anywhere from 3 to 8 max bets. Obviously it goes without explanation that the more max bets I place, the more confident I am. In most other cases, bets come in small, medium or large, and you should consider this synonymous with "good value bet, great value bet, and EXCELLENT value bet." It doesn't matter how much or what percentage of my inventory is. I don't keep track of how large my betting inventory is and I have no idea what percentage a small bet is. How much you choose to bet is up to you and that is definitely something you have to learn to control.

Yes, you make it very clear that we are paying to know your own bet. But sometimes you say you're betting high. And that means nothing to us if we don't know what high is for you.

I have no idea what low, medium, and high are for you. That is something you have to decide on your own. I have simply posted what the recommended move is, as well as my own bet.

Ok, that's what I was looking for. What about high and low bets? Today you said bet low on titan, but then you say 500. I would assume 500 is around 5% of your betting inventory, so by "low" you mean 5%? if that's the case, how much is "high"?

I am being as clear as I can. If I say that I will bet if the odds stay in the 80s, it means i WILL bet if they are 80-89%. I don't see how that is confusing at all.

Ok I get that. Again, I'm not asking you to tell us exactly how much you bet every time. I just want some CLARIFICATION in your wording and phrases, specifically the ones I listed below, so we can apply that to OUR bets.

I cannot always say how much I am betting, because the odds are constantly shifting and I post each post about 8 hours before the day's games. I try to be as accurate and clear as I can, but betting is a dynamic game and often I don't lock in bets until 10 minutes or even 6 minutes before the game even starts.

I like your group and that you watch most games and I want to keep supporting you every month. But it's hard to find reason to keep paying 5 keys if you don't cover this basic stuff.

I see what you're saying, but to understand what you consider value bets we need clarification on your choice of words. I'm not asking for you to hold our hands, but to lay some groundwork on some of your phrases. like when you say bet if odds "stay in the 80s", theres a big difference between 80 and 89. Where a bet can be value at 80 could potentially be stupid at 89. If you mean for us to bet anywhere between 80-89, we need to know that to make smart bets. Same goes for 70-74, 76-79, etc. And regarding what you mean by "big" and "small" bets, it's confusing because sometimes you say exactly what you're betting (200, 500, 5x max, etc). So then, when you say big, does that mean like 100? B/c if you meant 200 or more, we assume you’d just tell us the exact number like you usually do. It really is confusing.

This group is meant to provide advice on potential value bets based on odds, especially underdog value bets. It is NOT meant to be a personalized betting tutor. Holding your hand and telling you exactly how much to bet is going to hurt you in the long run as inventory management is something every better must learn, whether by trial and error or by doing some simple math. As a reminder, this group is a resource for you to consider when doing your own research, not an omnidirectional guide on how to bet.

lol, nash does not have a 75000 inventory. also, read what you wrote again, it doesn't clear anything up at all.

To take it further you can calculate more-or-less how much of his inventory he is betting from his posts. 3 max bets = 720. His inventory = 75,000. 720/75000 = ~1% of his inventory. A hit like that is not a problem. You'd have to factor that same assumption that if all your bets fail what will happen.

I don't see the confusion, low means like 70-73. It's common English, no? Bet big you can assume = bet high. In your case you can figure what a high bet is for you.

Nash, I think a lot of people (including myself) are confused about when to go in on a bet, and how big. You tell us that you'll bet if the odds "stay reasonable", or if they "stay in the 80s, low 60s, etc." A lot of us, especially the new ones, don't know what you mean by this. What are "reasonable" odds? If odds "stay in the 80s", you mean you will bet regardless of whether the odds are 80 or 89? Where's the cutoff for "low 70s" - 71? 72? 74? And then you say stuff like you'll "bet big" on a game - well that doesn't mean anything to us, especially since our inventory values vary from $200 to tens of thousands. A lot of your advice is very vague, and it would help if you could clear things up and be more specific in your advice (which is why I suggested a spreadsheet). I think for the premium price of this group, we deserve more clear direction.

Amen Nash

As a humble reminder, I WILL remove you if you can't be mature about your losses or are otherwise unnecessarily negative. I will give those who have fallen under this category a one-time pass because the last couple of days have been less than ideal. I started and maintain a high joining fee for this group because I don't want to deal with immature betters who can't handle losing, and I intend to keep it that way. Know that NO ONE is perfect and NO ADVICE IS PERFECT.

For reference, here is a picture of my graph over the last month. Have I lost some skins over the past two days? Yes. However, I've lost skins before and I'll lose skins in the future. Losing is an integral part of winning. If you only make safe overdog bets, you'll win maybe 100-200$ a day. Over the last month, I've made an average of $1000 a day. If you take away the big VP Flipside 7k win, I still make an average of 700-800$ a day. You decide which path is more profitable.

Do I lose? All the time. What matters is that I win more than I lose and this can take more than a couple days to show.

http://i.imgur.com/V2bBAMM.png

Tl;dr - Not even the best betters profit EVERY SINGLE DAY. If you're risking 90% of your inventory, you WILL eventually hit a rough day or two where you lose everything. This is one of the most basic and rudimentary mistakes that new betters make. This is where inventory management comes into play. MANAGE your inventory so you can afford to make underdog bets at appropriate sizes when they arise.

Overall, I'm very satisfied with the advice I provide, and people who understand how to use it tend to do well. I have no official source of feedback, but 50 members out of 66 in my April group paid to return for May, so it means that the vast majority of paying members are able to figure out how to use it. If you can't grasp this concept, I recommend you stop reading my posts as they will do you more harm than good. And sorry, no refunds.

Another thing I want to point out: When I say I will bet on a game if the team stays at X odds, it means I am SKIPPING if the odds change against my favor. For example, if you tried to copy what i posted and bet 800-1000$ on Alientech today, then you are doing it wrong because I SKIPPED that game due to the odds shifting from 34% to 50%. I specifically stated that I will be SKIPPING if the odds don't stay under 50%. Sure, the outcome would have been the same if the odds were at 34% and I did bet, but at least in that instance I took a shot at a high payout, whereas the payout at 50% is just mediocre.

My betting strategy revolves around making the right overdog bets to acquire skins which I then use to bet on underdogs. You won't earn money every day, hell, the last 3 days I've barely broken even. However, when you do win, you win big and over the course of a month I make anywhere from 10,000$ to 20,000$.

If you've been here for less than a week and you're complaining that my advice is terrible because you followed it exactly, then you have no grasp of what proper betting is. When I say I'm taking an underdog shot, it doesn't mean I think that team will win. It doesn't even mean that I think that team has a 50% chance to win. Hell, some underdog shots have a 1/3 or less chance to win but can still turn a profit in the long run. It's important for you all to understand this, and if you are trying to become a successful better, you WILL eventually learn this, whether it's by not winning big when you could have, or simply getting it through your head how odds work.

This group is for you if: You have a medium bank roll (>200$) and can remain calm and mature when you win and when you lose

every bettor has up and down days, no one is asking you to follow him. These two days have been bad, but mostly he makes A LOT of profit. He's legit, and so is his graph.

like I stated before, it would help if nash did a spreadsheet of all his bets. I don't know how he is making money while the rest of us are losing money, so it would be helpful if we can track his progress. This shouldn't be too much to ask, especially if we're going to pay 5 keys to join.

Lol yea hopefully it's either this group is awful or its just that these 3 days are bad days. Lost WAY more money than j earned..

I am not requesting him 24/7. I just want to get this fixed ASAP before it gets confusing.

@Adin-D wait for him to be free, Im sure he can respond to your needs. Honestly Nash's group is summarized in the description and you shouldnt feel cheated as it was your decision to join the group. We can't request Nash to be online and ready to answer 24/7 as he is human too, and I think he does the best he can. Also, you can't judge the group if youve only been here for 24 hours or less. Judging someone's predictions based one a single day doesnt work, and many of us have profited from Nash's betting predictions. No method in betting is gonna yield immediate profit, and you got to remember that after all anything can happen. Ive read your comments and Im getting the feel you have to change your mindset a bit when approaching betting.

I will be mature about this, but can you please respond Nash? I honestly feel like I've been "cheated" in a way.

Yeah, This group is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ awful...

Nash can I please have a refunded and kicked from the group? It is nothing like I thought it would be and from the comments I feel like people are loosing 10x what they're making. Also your predictions aren't really predictions because there is no recommended bet or indepth analysis. I also had to preview of the group before I joined so I did not think it would be like this.

Best underdog to bet today? I made some nice inventory in safe matches, so I want to try. AT looks nice to bet, some else close match?

Hey Nash, is there any way you can start doing a spreadsheet of all your picks, bet amounts, and win/loss amounts? I've been trying to follow your predictions exactly, but I've lost more than I've won, and I just don't know how you manage to keep turning profit every day/week/month. A spreadsheet where you post your picks and outcomes would be really helpful in tracking your progress.

Loving the new steam group pic Nash! :^)

http://♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.com/match?m=3470

New match just added. KeyD vs TSTORM on Overpass.

Backgroundinfo:

VP lost to KeyD on Lan on Overpass (2 Overtimes afaik)

Only bet what you are willing to risk.

Nash i have a question for you, i had 150$ worth of returns on lounge 2 days ago and i'm now down to around 15-20 and i have around 65-70$ worth in my inventory, do you think i should use them?

I started with 50$ and messed around for a while. Didn't really take it seriously until later. Ended up trading some dota stuff for 4 max skins to bet with and thats where I took off. I started off doing safe maxbets until I had 12 max skins and some smaller ones, and then somewhere along the way I learned to do value underdog bets.