GRUPO DE STEAM
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Dr_Stickman 1 FEB 2016 a las 10:30 a. m. 
Gaben simulator?
The doctor is in 31 ENE 2016 a las 8:28 p. m. 
I looked at the trailer and screenshots and a number of the assets, as numerous members have pointed out, are clearly made by Mister Necturus

https://www.assetstore.unity3d.com/en/#!/search/page=1/sortby=popularity/query=publisher:290

others are made by PROTOFACTOR
https://www.assetstore.unity3d.com/en/#!/search/page=1/sortby=popularity/query=publisher:265

so i dont see how they can say differently..
Glassig 31 ENE 2016 a las 8:03 a. m. 
Hi, thanks for all the answers. I was just not up with the GL rules or anything, now I am thanks. I don't think using bought assets is wrong as long as the developer is cool with it.
Should be noted that one of the game developers of Blade of War is currently saying that a friend of another dev made all assets except the goblin, which they bough, while the other dev claims they bought everything. It's not a cool situation, for anyone who is curious.
The doctor is in 30 ENE 2016 a las 11:42 p. m. 
The doctor is in 30 ENE 2016 a las 11:30 p. m. 
@Glassig re: asset flipping

and yes i do have a number of games that i play that do use stock assets
The doctor is in 30 ENE 2016 a las 11:28 p. m. 
@Glassig re: asset flipping

finally, we do report using the report button any illegal activity, like using assets without first getting proper licensing to both valve and to the asset rights holder.

this helps remove the worse of the worse and as you can see some of the stuff has been taken down, although its not always easy to find out exactly why and by whome...
The doctor is in 30 ENE 2016 a las 11:28 p. m. 
@Glassig re: asset flipping

technically its actually not illegal, unity asset store license allows it, green light agreement allows it, its sort of a loop hole, but that does not mean it is right

what we do is record use here, so people know, and report it in unity thread on this.

personally i also downvote any pure asset flipping. just using a stock asset is not in itself asset flipping, again its what they are doing with it...

when we see a problem like assets being misused we normally also contact the real asset author and make sure they are aware someone is misusing their assets

at that point the authors just make sure that the assets are being properly used and that they are properly licensed.

asset authors can also do dmca takedown if there is any abuse...
The doctor is in 30 ENE 2016 a las 11:25 p. m. 
@Glassig re: asset flipping

let me start by saying that using stock assets on its own is not a bad thing, its what some people do with them.

if all someone does is take the stock assets and then turns around and tries to take credit for someone elses peoples work and try to make people believe that its their own work without properly disclosing that they are in fact using someone elses work, well that is bad

also if all someone is doing is turning around without adding any value and tryinf to sell the asset as their own creation without putting any added value into the thing, well that is also bad

but to be honest there are number of very good games even in the steam store right now that are using stock assets and are not problem at all. then there are other games including in the steam store where all they are doing is flipping someone elses work as their own without disclosure, without adding value and without any plans to ever really create a real game, well those are bad.
The doctor is in 30 ENE 2016 a las 10:21 p. m. 
@Glassig thanks and great job identifying the assets...
PixxelBob 28 ENE 2016 a las 12:00 p. m. 
Some members who just outright hate any game because it uses assets will of course disagree with me :D
PixxelBob 28 ENE 2016 a las 11:59 a. m. 
@Glassig "Asset flipping" is generally when a game takes assets from a third party asset developer does nothing with them and releases effectively the demo scene as a game.

Personally I think it's unfair to downvote purely because a game uses assets. There are plenty of good successful titles that use a range of third party assets, especially because indie devs & small teams don't always have the skills to build everything in a game.

The greenlight vote should be used as it's intended to signify your interest in the game. If you're interested you vote "Yes" if not you vote "No". Regardless of whether the game uses assets or not.

Notify this group of the game so it can be added to the list.
A game using assets is not necessary a bad game. Sure if they've just repackaged the demo scene from the assets that's not cool. Each game should be looked at individually on their own merits.
Glassig 28 ENE 2016 a las 3:44 a. m. 
As a new person to this community and to Greenlight in general, what are the code of conduct for Asset flipping? Like, do we only down-vote or do we report, can you even report for asset-flipping? I mean, they have the right to use bought assets, right? Or must they give credit in order to use it, or is it not allowed at all? Don't get me wrong, it's ♥♥♥♥♥♥ to post a game with only store bought assets, but is it against the rules?
Glassig 28 ENE 2016 a las 3:43 a. m. 
You should add Blades of War: http://steamproxy.net/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=609160122
Here are some of the assets I could find:
Goblin (second result when searching for goblin): https://www.assetstore.unity3d.com/en/#!/content/16837
Demon (first result when searching): https://www.assetstore.unity3d.com/en/#!/content/514
Skeleton sorcerer: https://www.assetstore.unity3d.com/en/#!/content/3871
Horse: https://www.assetstore.unity3d.com/en/#!/content/3203
Playable character: https://www.assetstore.unity3d.com/en/#!/content/3791
I am sure there is more, because it looks like nothing is original but I kind of gave up searching for more.
The doctor is in 1 DIC 2015 a las 1:28 p. m. 
@QueenGothDoll good question

asset flipping is basically where someone or some entity is using a build of the demo project that comes with many stock assets as their own creation doing little to no work

stock assets are assets done by a asset developer and licensed non exclusively
"Cat Baffler" LMSB© 1 DIC 2015 a las 1:22 p. m. 
“there’s always going to be folks who exploit a good thing for personal gain without giving something back. I’m referring to the handful of Asset Store users out there who have taken Unity demo products and Asset Store starter products, slapped their name on it without contributing or creating anything original, and uploading it for sale on popular online game marketplaces.” -from ▼
http://www.gamespresso.com/2015/07/23/unity-talks-about-asset-flipping/
Wynter 1 DIC 2015 a las 1:05 p. m. 
sorry what is "asset flipping" and "stock assets"?
The doctor is in 29 NOV 2015 a las 11:57 a. m. 
sorry they are not asset flipping or using stock assets
Wynter 28 NOV 2015 a las 12:03 p. m. 
Add Resident Evil 4 its glitchy as hell.
"Cat Baffler" LMSB© 5 NOV 2015 a las 6:22 p. m. 
Thank you very much for this group. We need more watchdogs in the industry.
Starbug 5 NOV 2015 a las 4:14 p. m. 
Keep up the good work.
Otter | Free The Sea 5 OCT 2015 a las 6:58 p. m. 
The doctor is in 3 OCT 2015 a las 9:37 a. m. 
added to Other Greenlights Using Assets
http://steamproxy.net/groups/AssetWatch#announcements/detail/794112366309601135

[quote]
E.L.T: The Extra Large Testicle
http://steamproxy.net/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=523143768

Using Simple Town
https://www.assetstore.unity3d.com/en/#!/content/43500
by Synty Studios
https://www.assetstore.unity3d.com/en/#!/publisher/5217

and possibly other Simple Assets by Synty Studios
[/quote]
The doctor is in 28 SEP 2015 a las 10:46 a. m. 
Made @Lord Poop-Head Player of the Week for his contribution to group!
The doctor is in 28 SEP 2015 a las 10:41 a. m. 
wow that was quick, its gone!
The doctor is in 28 SEP 2015 a las 10:10 a. m. 
LPH 28 SEP 2015 a las 7:20 a. m. 
http://steamproxy.net/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=526306262 A flip of https://www.assetstore.unity3d.com/en/#!/content/13532 I called it out and my comment was removed and I'm banned from the comments.
The doctor is in 14 SEP 2015 a las 1:52 p. m. 
@xcom ufo

please add photo for icon to your profile and i'll be happy to check it out.
The doctor is in 14 SEP 2015 a las 1:50 p. m. 
we sure could use and welcome any help identifying games and greenlights that are either purely flipping assets and/or mainly using stock assets.
Otter | Free The Sea 10 SEP 2015 a las 11:33 a. m. 
If you need help, I could help. Also, I have a photo for the icon, but I can't post the link.
The doctor is in 4 SEP 2015 a las 7:52 p. m. 
The doctor is in 4 SEP 2015 a las 7:51 p. m. 
The doctor is in 4 SEP 2015 a las 6:06 p. m. 
Added Greenlights Pure Asset Flips
http://steamproxy.net/groups/AssetWatch#announcements/detail/794112366309555099

Going forward more Greenlights will be added as I become aware of them.
The doctor is in 22 AGO 2015 a las 11:24 a. m. 
dont have the same so i can do a game review for it

but i have added it to list of games flipping assets and have added it to curation
LPH 22 AGO 2015 a las 11:16 a. m. 
Are you going to make a review of it? all but one of the game's reviews are by the developers and their friends.
The doctor is in 21 AGO 2015 a las 6:22 p. m. 
Pump-Action Captain
http://steamproxy.net/steamstore/app/378280

PUMP-ACTION CAPTAIN - Makes The Slaughtering Grounds Look Good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl4_eqOLtGk

long list of stock assets, will slowly fill them in and then add it to list of games using assets
The doctor is in 13 AGO 2015 a las 1:20 p. m. 
hey thanks!

yeah i have to get around to adding greenlights...

:ChipEvil:
LPH 13 AGO 2015 a las 1:06 p. m. 
The doctor is in 10 AGO 2015 a las 9:01 p. m. 
Hello and a big thank you to all who joined!

I've started to list the games and the assets that they use and I am also added some related points of interest.

Cheers!

:bbtraccoon:
The doctor is in 10 AGO 2015 a las 10:17 a. m. 
hey thanks for joining.

personally not all that good at making levels, i'm more of a programmer.

ive never used game workshop, have spend number of years doing unreal and unity.

:bbtcat:
GuardianHellHound 10 AGO 2015 a las 10:03 a. m. 
@The King Possum: Check Related Videos.
GuardianHellHound 10 AGO 2015 a las 10:02 a. m. 
So far the most unrewarding job I've done was map making (that's coming from someone who made top rated all time files in a game workshop). But some people, like me, just have a thing to make stuff no one will ever give a crap about; well count me in. Thanks for the invite The doctor is in! Let the games assets inquisition begin. :RedStar: